Speaking of Fascism, how will leftwingers implement national gun confiscation if they win in 2008?

Question

This editorial by retired leftist diplomat Dan Simpson provides us with one clue:


"The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm.

Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across the country at the same time. But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. If there were, those carrying them would be subject to quick confiscation and prosecution. On the streets it would be a question of stop-and-search of anyone, even grandma with her walker, with the same penalties for "carrying."

That is my idea of how it could be done"



http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070425/OPINION04/704250310/0/OPINION

Thanks for the link Gottlos!

It is simply amazing to me that some leftys (John Doe 1st) keep repeating the mantra "Nobody's going to take away your precious firearms" when in fact it has already happened in places like New Orleans.


National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre slammed New Orleans authorities Monday for seizing legal firearms from lawful residents.

"What we’ve seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves, " LaPierre said.

"When law enforcement isn’t available, Americans turn to the one right that protects all the others - the right to keep and bear arms," LaPierre said. "This attempt to repeal the Second Amendment should be condemned."

The New York Times reported last Thursday that no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to have guns, quoting the superintendent of police that "only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons."

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/Releases.aspx?ID=6466

Answer 1

God save us if this happens. Is this not against the Constitution? There would be allot of fighting and shooting and killing if this were to happen.

Answer 2

This would definitely signal the next revolution in the United States. Under the circumstances outlined the people would not stand for it. Hollywood has tried to condition us to the idea that the government could easily revert to a fascist state and that the military and police would blindly follow. Somehow I doubt very seriously if that would be the case. Such a move would splinter the government, the military and civilian authority. The result would be anarchy and warring factions in the streets. The one thing that the writer counts on in making drawing his conclusions is that people would not be informed on a wide scale of this occurring in rapid fashion. The problem with that assumption is that it ignores the reality that information is almost instantaneously passed these days by use of mediums like the Internet. Therefore the practice could never be contained and people would organize rapidly in defense of their rights and freedoms.

Answer 3

I fear that there would be armed revolt if this plan was executed. Neighborhood militias would form in response to police action. The first exchange of gunfire would see the impeachment of the president and the shame and humiliation of the Democratic party of all time.

But I have a hard time believing that police would be willing to confiscate firearms on a large scale. They know the constitution as well as we do, and I believe that most policemen would simply refuse to carry out that "duty"

I'm beginning not simply to disagree with the democratic leadership, but to hate them. I know there are a great many democrats who wouldn't even agree with this.

Answer 4

Will the police do the dirty work? Or the military? It is already illegal for felons to own or keep a firearm. That law cannot even be enforced. Why can the terrorists not be 'disarmed' in Baghdad? Once again the ugly snake of government rises to chain the citizens. The people that need weapons most are the weak ones, eg women, the rich, law abiding ghetto dwellers, etc. Without the great equalizer(guns) the bullies would have it their way. Unarmed citizens are sitting ducks for all crazies. Look at VT. Why did that crazy not attack a police station? He was not that crazy. He would have been facing 32 guns!!
Thanks for the preview.

Answer 5

We have a 3 month period to get it together and go to DC to give them our guns,AMMO first.
60M AMERICANS with 300M firearms are not the problem,if they were they'd make Bagdad look like a playground.
Let's get real.
If every law abiding American turned in his/her guns today and every Gun Shop/factory closed it's doors,gun crime would continue at the same pace if not faster.
Drug smugglers would add guns to the shipments and we'd have a whole new blackmarket.
In states where people can carry legally the crime rate has gone down.
Washington DC and New York City with strict gun bans continue to be shooting galleries with high crime rates.
Criminals and freaks seek out easy targets,the disarmed and helpless.

Answer 6

The first step would be to ban all weapons built exclusively to kill people. Step 2 would be to ban all firearms that are semi-automatic.
The fact is that without a swell of public support they couldn't go much further as by the time they got this stuff through Congress, Senate and the White House they would be voted out of office.
One of my favorite sayings is ironically from the Liberal state New Hampshire "Live Free or Die" or in this case "From My Cold Dead Hands"

Answer 7

And so many refer to Bush as being the modern day Hitler. This is indeed realistic and something that I can easily see being implemented, should the Socialists ever work their way into power.

As someone else has already pointed out, the first step is to quit producing ammunition that is available at present time.

Stock up folks! I have.

Answer 8

I keep thinking that the Democrats had learned their lesson but gun control is a bizarre compulsion of theirs. Despite the fact that they will lose the South again I do not think they can resist their need to confiscate weapons.

Answer 9

Hmmmm. A society were the only people with guns are criminals and the government. Or in reality criminals only because the government are just a bunch of criminals. That is a comforting thought.

Answer 10

If they dare try to take my guns away, I will fight them My forefathers fought for Americans to have the Constitutional right to bear arms, along will all of the other Constitutional rights, and I will never, ever, let someone like Hillary take my rights away. My forefathers fought hard to keep this country away from criminals like Hillary Clinton.

Answer 11

Talk about conspiracy theories!!!!

You gotta be kidding me, man!

There aren't going to be gun confiscations any more than you're going to overturn Roe v Wade.

Read my lips,"not gonna happen."

In addition to all the RESPONSIBLE gun owners in this country, there are just way too many nutcakes who like to caress large ordnance and make loud bangs.

Nobody's going to take away your precious firearms.

Actually, one of the reasons a lot of people fear "gun lovers" is because of the rash of militia movements.

The militia movement is a relatively new right-wing extremist movement consisting of armed paramilitary groups, both formal and informal, with an anti-government, conspiracy-oriented ideology. Militia groups began to form not long after the deadly standoff at Waco, Texas, in 1993; by the spring of 1995, they had spread to almost every state. Many members of militia groups have been arrested since then, usually on weapons, explosives and conspiracy charges.

The fact that both the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents involved illegal firearms added considerable fuel to the fire that formed the militia movement. Many militia members and leaders were radical gun-rights advocates, people who believed that, in fact, there could be no such things as illegal firearms and whose anti-government ire was formed in large part because of fear and suspicion of imminent gun confiscation.

Conspiracies were easy to accept for people who believed that the federal government deliberately murdered people at Ruby Ridge and Waco and that door-to-door gun confiscation could begin any day.