I was so happy that today I found out that BMW has finially acknowledged that Americans need the 1 series and they will be importing them next year. Will they pull their heads a few more inches out and offer a 4 cylinder and or a diesel in them too?
2007-07-19
15:37:25
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Theomdude.... uuuugh! I forgot about the lack of dipsticks in new BMWs. ::sigh:: I can only hope that one day humanity and BMW with it will return to the days of building sensible cars like the 2002. I know it's a long shot, but I'm entitled to dream.
2007-07-19
17:12:02 ·
update #1
In Europe, where tax laws and gasoline prices favor smaller engines and Diesels, they will sell 4-cylinders, and I have no doubt there will be Diesels also.
In the US, where politicians are too timid to tax gasoline to make it expensive enough to make Hummers unsaleable, and sales taxes are set by states, not the Feds, there is no pressure on BMW to move out of their traditional upmarket sport sedan, sports car, and 'sports activity vehicle' constituency and sell an 'economy car.'
They tried it before with the 318i, and while those who bought them are loyal, and love them, from BMW's point of view, they bombed in the market place.
There will be no fours here. IMO there will eventually be a turbodiesel, but not for years, and only if the 1-Series breaks sales records (which I'll bet it does -- Dang! I want one!).
And BTW, they'll all be sans dipstick, like all the current 3-series! If you suspect the oil is low and the dash readout fails (which they have done), and want to know by how much, the only way to find out is for the service tech to drain the oil and measure it, which could put a serious crimp in your travel plans if you happen to be a few miles up from Watson Lake on the Alaska Highway.
2007-07-19 17:09:01
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answered by theomdude 5
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Well the 1 Series is only there as an entry coupe as prices for the 3 series have increased over time and therefore the market has some room for the 1 Series in the states.
They probably wont produce a 4 cylinder or diesel for the states, because that would mean producing an engine that would meet the US emission standards. Using the N52 and N54 engines across the series (1 Series, 3 Series, 5 Series) would be highly efficient for BMW, and therefore thats what your going to see.
Of course some people might complain that they don't want to see a 1 series with the same engine as a 3 series or 5 series, it's really not based on power... its based on efficiency.
2007-07-20 09:18:10
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answered by Brian 3
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Yes, BMW is finally bringing over the 1 series (though I'm pretty sure they're not making an M version so there won't be another M1).
About the 4 cylinder and/or diesel... i doubt a 4 cylinder is coming soon, just not performance driven enough for BMW. I think it's too much compromise and it wouldn't fit as well into their line-up.
The diesel I have hope for. I think they'll use what they develop in Europe and bring it over to the US. It should make a pretty good mileage rival to a hybrid, especially in actual driving conditions and not just the simulated ones that give us inflated MPG estimates. And it might actually qualify for the carpool/HOV lane in the highways because it's being efficient and not dragging a car along on with a small gas engine while the electric engine idles. More importantly, a diesel will be sportier. all in all, a diesel should give you more power and torque to really hit pavement and make use of that BMW suspension while cornering. The technology also can be used in the rest of their line-up, so I think it's a good idea financially as well.
anyways, i think there's hope, just not really soon. i'm guessing a few years.
2007-07-19 18:51:56
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answered by Quite B 1
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It's all a game of marketing buddy. For years, Americans love big engines, and big low-end torque. They don't like to rev their engines to 8000rpm to get the torque.
The one series will not be cheap, and will not be marketed by any means as an "entry level" car. It will be marketed instead as a "pocket rocket", the kind of cars younger drivers would love to get their hands on. For this reason alone, the more timid 4-cylinder engines will not make it to the US.
Currently, nobody else in the market segment has such a vehicle. A small nimble luxury/performance car with a twin turbos. BMW will certainly make a clean sweep on this strategy. But it will definitely also hurt the sales of the larger 3-series. But the 1-series is really a 2+2. It has next to no rear legroom. Buyers of the 1 series will certainly not be thinking about carrying any adults out back for any kind of distance.
Putting anything that doesn't highlight the 1-series as a "performance car" would not mix well with BMW's US marketing.
I wouldn't hold my breath on 4 cylinders or diesels. Incidentally, Gasoline powered X5's are hurting in the used car market in the UK because nobody wants them. They all want the diesel powered version.
2007-07-19 18:50:21
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answered by Snowie 6
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No, because they don't need to. It will be fuel efficient while getting 414 bhp.
Both 1 Series models will either be a 128 or a 135 and only V-8's will be offered.
Eventually, the 1 Series M will come out, and be called the M1.
But, I'm just writing exactly what is in the BMW-USA Website below:
2007-07-19 15:41:01
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answered by kNOTaLIAwyR 7
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4 cylinder is not coming to the U.S. They are bringing the 128i and 135i coupes.
2007-07-20 15:53:36
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answered by guitarplyr6444 1
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it would help if they actually got the electronics to work the way they're supposed to across all series. brand new 3 series, still sitting on the lot, and it won't start so they have to replace the computer? a brand new computer? come on now.
2007-07-19 15:42:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Probably not :(
2007-07-20 20:30:09
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answered by Anonymous
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nope get a benz
2007-07-19 15:40:08
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answered by Anonymous
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