Did you hear what Bush said about pardonning someone?

Question

bush was asked if he would consider pardonning the 2 border patrol agents convicted of shooting an illegal drug dealer, and he said that he would not promise to do any such thing. He then continued and said:

"I know it's an emotional issue but people need to look at the facts. These men were convicted by a jury of their peers after listening to the facts" .

Iol..

Anyone notice anything peculiarly inconsistent about Bush stance on not interfering with the justice system?

Answer 1

Less than 3 weeks after he pardoned Libby. The guy is a certifiable idiot. I'm surprised he could say that with a straight face.

Answer 2

Everyone needs to realize some things:
1. Bush didn't pardon Libby; he commuted the jail sentence
2. Commutation of a sentence means that he still has a convicton on his record
3. A pardon means that the conviction is erased, as if it never happened.
4. They border patrol agents didn't "take anyones life", they shot a known drug smuggler in the rear end while he was running from them.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, the two agents should not only be pardoned, they should get medals and a raise for doing their jobs, and Libby should get a full pardon as well and the "special prosecutor" should be brought up on charges for wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on an investigation. He knew at the begining of the investiation that Armatage had been the one that leaked Plame's name to Bob Novak. Bob Novak says this numerous times in interviews and in his book, still the prosecutor led the media and the people to believe that it was Libby who leaked the name. He kept after Libby until he answered some questions diferent from the first time he was asked. And to top it all off, Armatage has yet to be charged with leaking the name. How can one conspire to obstruct justice if the person that did the deed isn't charged with a crime? Tim Russert wasn't charged with obstruction when he couldn't recall some questions. Hillary wasn't charged with obstruction when she told Ken Starr that she didn't recall things about whitewater, she wasn't even charged with obstruction when she hid the billing records she had from the Rose law firm and later were mysteriously found after the investigation was over.

Answer 3

Bush doesn’t think before he speaks. He could have mentally noted the sensitivity of the commutation he granted Libby and more rationally distinguished this case by noting that someone was killed rather than referring to a conviction by a jury of their peers.

Answer 4

He commuted Scooter but I see your point. Ramos and Compean should have received an administrative slap on the wrist and are doing hard time. Scooter should be doing hard time but won't be. Once Bush leaves office, I'd love a full investigation of this and I would frame the picture of Federal Attorney Johnnie Sutton getting disbarred, that lying sack of festering cow manure.

Answer 5

He'll let libby, knowing what he did was wrong, get away with not doing any jail time, but won't help two agents who basically did their job.

The bad part is there are still some republicans STILL TAKING UP FOR HIM...

Answer 6

These men were convicted of illegally taking a life. Scooter Libby was convicted of not being completely and totally forthcoming with everything he knew. There's a little bit of a difference.

Answer 7

Since when has Bush been consistent about anything but lying?

Answer 8

Yes. These individuals cannot benefit Bush directly by their silence, so he has no incentive to bend the rules for them.

Answer 9

Did he pardon Scooter?

Answer 10

Inconsistent? you ask???
Isn't it called "executive privelege"?
Pardon does not release a wrongdoer from guilt - only from punishment . . .