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I know the ancient Egyptians were subject to invasion by Black, White, & Arabs and I know most people in Egypt consider themselves Arabs themselves. However, Where did the ancients go? Did they blend by mixing and converting religions with their invaders or were they killed off??

2007-07-19 08:30:52 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Travel Africa & Middle East Egypt

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There is currently a D,.N.A. study being undertaken in the area's of Luxor and Aswan among specially selected family groups. I have mentioned this study by Chicago University in previous questions relating to this topic
The study is actually an attempt to determine once and for all, whether any of "the blood of the Pharaoh' s" has actually survived two thousand years of integration.
Through 2,000 years of invasion and integration there has been a melting pot of Macedonian Greek, Roman, Arab and various European bloodlines.
The school of thought that the ancient Egyptians were of ******* origin has long been disproved
This was quite a popular if controversial theory in the 1970s and it is still perpetrated by some, dare I say "Egyptidiot's" websites.Though I know of none who have connection with any University.
This is despite all the current evidence of modern forensic technology and studies to determine the D.N.A. from the hair, bone and tissue remains of Dynastic mummies.
Specimens have been taken from both royal and common family groups.As well there have been a number forensic reconstructions made of individuals cranio facial features. The most well publicised being that of Tutankhamen.
It would appear that there are few exceptions in the many hundreds that have already been studied. With their general appearance not all that different to the faces that you will see on the streets of Alexandria or Cairo in the present era.
One of the of the most disputed cases is Queen Tiye,wife of Amenophis III .This is based on an image of her that has the facial features painted black.
However in other depictions she is shown as a pale yellow.
The ancient Egyptians artists traditionally depicted females as having yellow or cream skin tones.While males were depicted with their features painted in red skin tones.
When you look upon the features that are so well defined in the mummified remains of Ramesses II or study the portrait bust sculpture of Queen Nefertitti,then you will see the atypical features that were predominate in the ancient Egyptians.
A high foreheaded elongated face with quite well defined cheekbones,aquiline nose with thin lips and straight hair. Which was usually mid to dark brown but in some cases quite fair.It is thought that Nefertitti may have actually had light auburn hair.
These are not features that are usual in a person of ******* decadency.
There is no doubt that even at that time there was blending of bloodlines. Many minor queens of several Pharaohs were not Egyptian by birth.
The mummy of Maiherpri,a child raised in the royal court as a fan bearer, shows strong ******* features and he has retained most of his tight black culry hair.Being of naturally dark complexion with tight curly hair he is artistically depicted as such. As are those in scenes of Nubian dancers and others involved in everyday court proceedings.
I have included the words of one of the best known Egyptologist/archaeologists "...on a copy of the Book of the Dead found in the tomb.....,Maherpra is depicted with his face black instead of the normal red,a detailed examination of his mummy,which showed that he died at around 24 years of age,also shows that he was *******,but not actually a *****.' quoted from the report by Reginald Englebach.
Black, in the depiction of royal personage and nobles was almost without exception reserved for those who were deceased.
It will be very interesting to read the finding of the current study when it is completed.
But I suspect that there will be very little of the D.N.A.of those of the great Pharaonic Dynasties still existing in anything else but the spirit and pride and the essence of what it is to be an Egyptian.

2007-07-19 17:56:43 · answer #1 · answered by sistablu...Maat 7 · 18 7

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I wonder why this question is never asked for other nationals. There are 100+ countries and territories around the world. The same question is asked time and time again. Modern Egyptians are descendants of ancient Egyptians. By ancient Egyptians, I mean the indigenous populations and ancient settlers from outside Egypt, Europeans, Asians and other Africans. Egyptians cannot be racially white because only Europeans are racially white. Someone who is white is an ethnic European. No European would consider an Egyptian white. It is only in the US that Egyptians are categorized as white or caucasians. This stems from the Afrocentric/Eurocentric debate about the race of ancient Egyptians and the "racial" ownership of their brilliant civilization. Egyptians cannot be racially black ; those who are racially black are dark skinned Africans, aka subsaharans. Egypt is in North Africa. Just like Soudan and Libya, you will find dark skinned Africans in the south of the country and a rainbow of colors in between. Egyptians (both modern and ancient) skin color ranges from milk white in the North to dark brown in the South. Egyptians are so mixed that most of them are light or dark brown. Who were the indigenous Egyptians? The answer can only be found in their genetic fabric e1b1b, which is widespread in North Africa and in the Horn of Africa. Their closest relatives are the Somali, the Ethiopian, the Nubian and Amazigh peoples. They also call themselves the daughters and sons of HAM aka Hamites.

2016-03-26 20:57:22 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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Are most modern Egyptians descendants of The Ancient Egyptians?
I know the ancient Egyptians were subject to invasion by Black, White, & Arabs and I know most people in Egypt consider themselves Arabs themselves. However, Where did the ancients go? Did they blend by mixing and converting religions with their invaders or were they killed off??

2015-08-18 18:54:54 · answer #3 · answered by Wolfy 1 · 0 0

The answer is very simple, the Ancients Egyptians didn't go anywhere, yes we've been mixed, but we (Modern Egyptians) are the only descendants of the Ancients, no one else.

2016-04-12 07:20:30 · answer #4 · answered by Gamal 1 · 1 3

thgurkha and shalfat were close to the truth. There are other 2 answers seem to have a racial background.

Although I know the answer, it's hard to explain it simply. There is only one book have it all and it's unfortunatley in Arabic. They were not killed off and not blended completly. Egyptian consider themselves Arabs by cultural effects. At the same time the major mixed marrieges that happened in the long history of Egypt was by Arabs as they were accepted by Egyptians. As the Turks stayed also for long and they were Muslims there were some mixed marieges but it didn't effect or changed the Egyptians. The Egyptian copts are considered to be part of the original Egyptians. Most of the invasions melted down in Egypt by time and they were changed by Egyptians and has a little effect on the Egyptians specially in the south. The reason was most of the resources and what the invadors care for was in the North plus the center of power. You can think about it like that most of the occupations and invasions added to Egypt and some of them stayed in Egypt after their troops went back home. You may need to make a complet study on the history of Egypt or read about it to know how was that happened as it was something really different. You may find the Turkish culture stayed the longest time left few words in the langauge and names of some services. Still you can see the same bodies and heads of the ancient Egyptians in many places in Egypt live and moving. Even myself some people told me I look like the ancients. Not here but in real life I mean.

If you can read Arabic I can tell you the name of the only great book which have it all.

Edit : Moonrise said it better than all of us I think

2007-07-19 11:44:15 · answer #5 · answered by Wise Heart 7 · 8 2

The best answer I think is that they are 'partly' descendant from ancient Egyptians. Like just about all modern populations, modern Egyptians are a mixture, and ancient Egypt was 2000 years ago. They have of course mixed with others since then (as you mention), but that doesn't mean the ancients are not 'among' their ancestors. In terms of ethnicity/ genetics, modern Egyptians are not 'Arabs'. Arabs as a group are the people of Arabia. Arabs took over Egypt in the late 7th century (later 600'sAD), but these were described as 'flying columns' of limited number, most of whom continued west to take over the rest of North Africa. Arabs took over the government, administration, leader positions but did not migrate or move to and settle Egypt 'en masse'. Modern DNA research has shown Arabs contributed little genetically to the current population. Arabs however did contribute greatly to moder Egypt's 'culture', Arabic language, Arabic writing, Arabic religion (Islam), which is why modern Egyptians consider themselves 'Arab', but in fact they are Arab only in culture not ethnicity or genetics.

2016-03-14 10:51:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Most of Egyptians in the south are descendants of the Ancient Egyptians for the obvious reasons you mentioned. as those invasions were mainly in the northern part of Egypt. Also the majority of the resources and opportunity are also in the north.

The ancients in my opinion mixed with the rest, no one was killed off. I dont recall in the history of Egypt any kind of civil war or major massacre.

2007-07-19 08:41:26 · answer #7 · answered by Sultan Shalfat the Adventurer 5 · 11 0

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we are mixed but Most of Egyptians in the south are descendants of the Ancient Egyptians coz when Arabs came to Egypt most of the Egyptians became Muslims by their choice and some of them remain Christians

and being a Muslim doesn't mean that you are an Arabic and being an Arabic doesn't mean you are a Muslim

2007-07-19 20:37:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 10 2

Perhaps amongst the Copts. The Coptic Church is one of the oldest Christian Churches and its establishment in Egypt antedates the expansion of Islam. Maybe Egyptian participants in YA can clarify the question.

2007-07-19 08:36:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 10 0

Most of the descendants are in the SOUTH part of Egypt. Arabs only conquered the northern part.

2016-10-27 16:33:19 · answer #10 · answered by jerry 2 · 0 1

most of the egyptians living in the south are descendents of the pharoahs. when i see a painting on the wall of a monument i can relate it to the men/women walking in the streets of upper egyptian villages/cities. the copts are mostly descendents of the pharoahs . some have mixed blood when someone marries a foreigner. in that case, you will see a dfference in the fairness of the skin or hair of the progeny. the rest of the egyptians are of mixed blood because so many men/ women married turks, lebanese, syrians , morocans, etc. but very few marriages take place between egyptians and citizens of the gulf because these prefer marrying from their own culture, tribe, or family.most egyptians have even features, prominent eyes , heavy eyelashes, a full mouth . hair is usually black or dark brown , the skin seems to be tanned , the eyes are dark brown or black. the features are not black african, they are north west african.
i would like to add we arent yellow or red, we have a natural tan like omar sherif and latin american stars. we have assimilated a lot during the past thousands of years, therefore you can see that the eyes of egyptians are bright with intelligence , love of life , hope in the future as well as confidence in what the past has given us in terms of knowledge and wisdom.

2007-07-19 11:43:40 · answer #11 · answered by Moonrise 7 · 7 4

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