Why do cons want to fight "Custer's Last Stand" in Iraq?

Question

What's wrong with pulling out now, we already got rid of Saddam and we clearly can't fix their problems. Isn't this war is costing too much money and lives for no good reason?

Answer 1

If you think lives are being lost now wait until we leave. Also I can't put a monetary price on lives.

Answer 2

The lines of victory are not as clear cut in this military engagement as past wars have seen, or at least since WWII. What we have here are two clashes of political ideology where we have clearer cut lines of separation of church and state, and much of the middle east is governed by religious factions. This is not to say that religion is the panacea of the weak or should be done away with outright, but it can be used as a form of mass-subjugation. The sectarian violence that is going on there is nothing short of civil war. Also in much of the middle east there is a gross mis-distribution of wealth, access of information, and political support that isn't from a "political war party" like Hamas or Fatah (spelling?)
Beyond this the middle east is faced with other economic issues; 50% of saudia arabia's GNP is comprised of the sale of opiates. So when the poor, orphaned, and disenfranchised receive support from an extremist political party, whose primary focus is totalitarian control of the area as a fundamentalist Islamic State and the utter destruction of Israel, then these groups gain more strength and support from those too indigent or uneducated to know any better. All they see is "a chicken in every pot" and a "mule in the yard". (Herbert Hoover -slightly modified) Unfortunately for us and the rest of the world, the world in general has a vested economic interest in the middle east. Instability there will not make things any easier for the economy or national security. Let us not forget the terror attacks in Tokyo subways, trains derailed and bombed in Spain, subways and car-bombings in England, riots and violence in France, and the list goes on. Wherever there is any extreme ideology, there is subjugation of the weak, merciless destruction of the opposition, and totalitarian control. To pull out now would probably have dire consequences. From all accounts that I have read, seen, and discussed with peers who have finished tours of duty in the middle east, Iraqi's want to be self governed but are unable to setup a stable political system because of sectarian violence and war-factions that are funded through contraband.

Answer 3

You really come across as being absolutely committed to failure in Iraq.
We will only fail if we quit.
Iraqis overwhelmingly want peace freedom and stability in Iraq.
Al Quaeda is fomenting civil war by attacking both their own Sunni people and the Shiites....stirring up revenge from each side towards the other.
The numbers of dead do not closely compare to the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis we've uncovered in the mass graves from Saddam's death squads.
Perhaps Iraq isn't pleasant enough for our standards...but it's better than is was and getting better...If we allow it.

Please present the option of permitting us to win.

Answer 4

you can't see past your nose if you think the only reason we are in Iraq was to get rid of Saddam. And believe me when I tell you, the dems know we need to be there, as well as the repbulicans. but between the mainstream media spreading nothing but lies and our spineless politicians on both sides of the aisle, the next 9/11 will make the first one look like a smouldering cigarette.

Answer 5

the army is a majority Republican, so needless to say (by team talk) they're struggling with. nevertheless, the actual question why liberals say they help the troops, while they choose they had basically provide up their project and what they have been working for. there is not any good judgment in liberals asserting they help the troops, in the event that they don't need them to win. not all liberals sense that way, yet many could be self happy with an excellent loss in the midsection east.

Answer 6

Yes we could always fight Custers last stand in Boston, or Chicago, or maybe at your house. Of course that would save a buck or two, right?

Answer 7

Nobody likes this war- but we have to give the Iraqi officials a chance to manage their country. After decades of oppression we cannot expect a tribal society to learn how to manage a civilized government in a year. It is costing too much money and taking funds from causes at home tht we would prefer to fund- but these terrorists hate us and we cannot show weakness by leaving now.

Answer 8

They don't. What they really want is probably more something along the lines of Sherman's march to the sea, or the pacification of the Philipines - but the military is not going to get the resources nor the free hand to do anything remotely like that.

So, between the libs wanting to lose the war, and the cons wanting to win it, we have the 'compromise' of an endless, fruitless conflict.

Answer 9

A clear measure of insanity, is when a person does the same thing ,but always expects a different result.

Answer 10

If we didn't throw money away there, we'd be throwing it at social problems here in the USA. Regardless as a working tax payer I get screwed.

Answer 11

We are keeping the terrorists busy. That means they are funneling the same resources into Iraq we are. And, we dont want them here.