Is Bush threatening to take your possessions or jail you if you protest the war? Read this executive order?

Question

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html

it seems to me he is very very vague when he talks about interfering with the war in Iraq. Couldn't he technically include simple protests if he wanted. This is way to vague when it is concerning the freedom of americans. Please read and let me know what you think of this.

Answer 1

I do wonder if that could be directed to even garden-variety anti-war protesters. If so, that definitely sounds like the stuff dictatorships are made of!

Answer 2

This isn't to far off track. Bush currently has the power under the Patriot Act to suspend the 2008 elections if the country is in a state of emergency (which we currently are). There's a lot of stuff he's been pushing through congress in fine print that many people aren't aware of. It's pretty scary with what he has done with our international image. America is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic, a system where the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law and citizens elect representatives to government. Democracy, by contrast, designates a system of government where the will of the majority rules, unrestricted by any law. The Founders of the United States of America went to great measures to ensure that our new nation was not a democracy.

Answer 3

It means that if Americans take down the streets to protest against Iraq war, then it will need only ONE guy to do something violent and stupid to allow the President to put EVERYBODY that participate into this protest in jail and confiscate all their possessions, so they could not do anymore protests in the future...
Thats sounds like this... And I am pretty good at legal semantics... ;)

Answer 4

When will the Americans wake up? We've been taken over by the military,and this is no longer the same country that our Fathers fought for! How can anybody read that crap, and not see that we're under a DICTATORSHIP !!
The corporations have conspired to peel away our Constitution in the name of profit ! This is the exact abuses of power that our Founding Fathers warned us about ! If this doesn't end with bloodshed,I'll be surprised ! Hang on ...it's gonna get weird real soon !

Answer 5

No. I read it. It is aimed at stopping the monetary support of Al Queda or others by residents in the U.S. exporting money for terrorists.

" . . . All property and interests in property of the following persons . . . are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported . . ."

It has nothing to do with protesting the war nor can it be interpreted as such.

Answer 6

I read the order--I have it open in another window right now--and it is an interesting read.

If I get called to fix someone's computer and that person has been giving assistance to someone hindering the reconstruction effort in Iraq, then *I* would be targeted.

Answer 7

Mark my words.
This is another tactic for Bushco, Inc. to keep power after 2008, and cancel the election.

Chertoff will have another gas attack (gut feeling), and thousands will be poisoned. Bush will then declare a 'national emergency,' and assume martial law, until the 'emergency' is over. The presidential election will be postponed indefinitely, and he will install himself and Cheney as Supreme Leaders. The emergency will be over when he decides to step down, or the people of this great nation decide to overthrow the government.

Answer 8

I think it would be easier to support your country. I don't know where these people find time to do all of this protesting. Between my job and my family, I don't have time to be a professional protester. Some people have this blame America first mentality. At least you can go to the mall or your Starbucks with worrying about it blowing up. If we weren't fighting terrorist bastards over there, we would be fighting them right here in your back yard. Maybe you can fix them a glass of tea, and they wont kill you. I would rather blow a big hole clean through him and not give him a chance to kill me. If you people weren't protesting the war, you would find something else to protest. You say your concerned about your freedom. How do you think you got the freedoms that you enjoy today. Appeasement didn't get you none of the freedoms that your concerned with. It won't get you any in the future. I served 8yrs., I think that gives me the right to tell you to love it or leave it.

Answer 9

Yes, I'd say he is. The Bush administration is systematically removing our rights and keeping the country and its citizens in a state of fear. Read the beginning of this profile on Cheney by the Washington Post to see what a piece of cake it was to remove the right of habeas corpus (RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL, CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED) to "terror suspects".

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/chapter_1/

Or how about this article, where Bush admits he signed the order that allowed the NSA to secretly and illegally listen to the phone calls of American citizens -- without a warrant: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/

Tangentially, he and Cheney also lied about the reasons for going to war (“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." – Bush’s Address to the Nation (March 17, 2003) ).

Scary stuff.

Answer 10

Yes, very vague. No President should have this kind of power and Republicans should look carefully at the powers he has been given. This is about the Constitution and the balance of powers. Congress can do nothing to stop him unless Republicans join Democrats and so far, they follow blindly. We all need to remember that we need to watch our own party members too.

Thanks for catching this. MSM never will.