Should we the Brits?

Question

Do something about all the cameras watching our every move, everywhere you look in this country is a camera, it beyond a joke. We should join forces to get rid of them.

Don't some of you think, that if we had invested in prisons and not closing all our police stations that there would be less need for cameras.

Lets face it the crime rates are still rising criminals only have to cover there faces, so they are not that affective.

As for the terrorism did the government cause us to be under threat in the first place by taking us into an illegal war? Personally, I am more concerned about our rights being eroded than by a crime and I have lived in high crime areas. It is not only criminals that need worry it is anyone opposing the government, as the anti terrorism laws are already being abused.

Answer 1

cctv cameras are virtually useless as regards crime.there is no reliable evidence that they help in any way whatsoever.they seem to be promoted as a replacement for police officers but if you examine the amount of court cases where cctv evidence produced a conviction then you start wondering why people bother with them.
they are in fashion because of their cheapness,it costs the state considerably more to pay a copper,but their usefulness is limited.
a more concentrated police force would render them old hat and,besides which,they prove nothing if the criminals' identity is concealed or obscured and therefore it's inadmissable evidence.
it is far cheaper to fill every nook and cranny with cameras than it is to recruit,train and operate law enforcement.this is at the heart of their popularity as the state likes to save money whenever possible.
any state that has these wretched things everywhere has deteriorated as a society and clearly rebukes any notion of privacy.
i resent being observed everywhere i go and have encountered no convincing arguments in favour of wall-to-wall cctv.

Answer 2

Yes we should. Those in favour talk at length about effective these cameras are. For what? Certainly not for prevention. In the case of the 7/7 bombers they were useful for providing lots of pictures of the bombers on their way to their destinations only after the events had taken place and it was the same with the imitation bombers shortly afterwards.

No doubt these pictures and video provide an endless reservoir of cheap footage for late night crime video shows, but what else are they good for really. Not for prevention. Certainly not for assuaging fear of crime - for it is that which Brits are most consistently quoted as being afraid of in the British Crime Survey. Post hoc surveillance has replaced policing of the streets (when did you last see a_regular_patrol) and policing on the roads which has been overtaken by GATSOs and Highways Agencies vehicles on the motorways. None of these prevent crime from taking place but sure, they may be useful in securing convictions in court; not much of a consolation to those who were the victims of robbery, rape or physical assault.

How much difference would visible policing really make? Recently figures were released about how parents were afraid to let their children play outside. So I'll ask, how many do you think would be willing to let them play outside if there were a visible police presence on every block?

Answer 3

Do you feel like your are living on a Big Brother set to, I recon that if you do not want to take part in the nonsense you have to get rid of the idiotic program makers and that is hard because the majority of the British Public enjoy minding other peoples business because there own is boring and dull, by the way do you think the new look police uniform will come out in leather next year

Answer 4

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Answer 5

Yep- take a photo of as many cop car licence plates as possible.

Get a mate to create a retro-reflective life-size replica.

Speed as much as you want and all the fines will go to the coppers.

Some Aussie wags did it apparently.
I read another one got his huge 4WD, parked it in front of the speed-camera contractor's van, chained the external camera to his bullbar and drove away with the camera dragged behind him.

Those Aussies are funny.

Answer 6

It shows that while Orwell got the year wrong when writing '1984', we are well on the way to fulfilling his prophecy of a police state. Only this week, UK Police Chiefs called for the right to imprison people indefinitely without charge.

Answer 7

As I have nothing to hide , I don't mind the cameras presence .
In an age where there is the ever threat of being mugged , they offer some deterrent and at the very least can help catch the perpetrator of attacks
So I would rather have a situation where we didn't need to have them , but unfortunately we haven't.

Answer 8

Just the sort of view of someone who would have something to hide.

Cameras do far more good than not - just recently a cyclist was knocked off her bike by two kids skateboarding off the pavement, she was quite bumped and bruised but before we could call for help the police were there having seen it all on the CCTV cameras.

They get my vote to stay.

Answer 9

Im all for it mate, cameras are not to catch criminals but to fleace hard working people out of a few quid for flicking *** ash out of their windows. Start a group, recruit members, devise an action plan, lets go for it

Answer 10

although when you look at the evidence of the latest guys arrested for the recent terror attacks and of 21/7 couple years back, alot of the stuff is watching them on traffic cams and the like and following their moves on them...

but on the other hand.. i do agree with you... it does take the ps sometimes... but they will never be got rid cause we dont have a say in it!