The way I see it is that the Democrats and Republicans want it one way, find a new course that will lead in a positive direction.
Then there is the other way, the Secular/Progressive way. Just leave.
When I say Democrats, I surely am NOT talking about people like Murtha, Pelosi, Ried, Clinton or Kennedy. These are all secular/progressives. They are just trying to appease their moveon.org'ers to remain in power.
I'm talking about folks like Lieberman.
The thing that scares the progressives the most is the fact that the surge is actually showing positive results.
Hillary Clinton even said that it was. Imagine that?
If this thing completely turns around in the next six months to a year. The progressives are finished.
So naturally they DO NOT want anything that Bush or the Iraq study group came up with to succeed.
2007-07-19 02:31:30
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answered by scottdman2003 5
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This warfare is principally a civil warfare that we actually do no longer prefer to take an element on. This warfare is very akin to the ten 365 days Iraq Iran warfare, which we did no longer take a solid stand one way or yet another. in certainty, i think of we particularly concept Iraq and Iran struggling with one yet another became into stable in some way for the U. S.. for this reason there is not any end to this warfare, considering we don't have an element we actually need to win. because of the fact we don't prefer one element to 'win' we gained't 'win' the warfare, so it follows there is not any reason to be interior the warfare, so we could constantly flow away. you're probable below the misapprehension that 'we are struggling with al Queda' in Iraq, that's actual in basic terms coincidental. If we left Iraq and the Sunni's gained, they could then concentration their efforts to do away with Al Queda, and further if the Shia gained, they could additionally get rid fo Al Queda. the two Al Queda and the U. S. could nevertheless be struggling with in Afganistan.
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answered by hinch 4
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That's what the debate is about. If you payed attention to the amendment they are trying to pass you'd know that it isn't a bill to cut and run. The bill states that within 120 days the U.S. must start redeploying troops from Iraq and by April of 2008 all except a limited number of troops (which the President decides how many) must be out of Iraq. The remainder of the troops will continue to train Iraqi Security Forces, protect American assets and conduct counter-terrorism operations. What the troops won't be doing anymore will be policing the streets of Iraq, that job will finally fall on the Iraqi's. With the limited number of troops in Iraq we will be able to continue to fight the real terrorists both in Iraq as well as refocus our priorities on Afghanistan and Pakistan (where Osama Bin Laden and the central force of Al Qaeda is). This isn't cutting and running, however President Bush and his Republican allies continue to use this type of language to make it sound like the Democrats are just asking for a total withdrawal of troops the day the bill is signed.
The reason for the all night debate was to put focus on the fact that while the Democrats do everything in their power in Congress to change course in Iraq, the Republicans are using the tactics they tried so hard to abolish when they were in power to block any legistlation that challenges Bush.
2007-07-18 14:47:35
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answered by Alex 3
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Well... With out your Neo-Con hatred your kind of right. This Congress should have a all night debate on how to fix things in Iraq. I don't believe we can WIN at this point. To tell you the truth I don't even know what Bush considers winning, but I do know that pulling out right now would be a disaster and doing what we are doing right now has been a disaster. So instead of Congress trying to attack Bush. They should try to work together on a better plan of attack. Or something that might work...
2007-07-18 14:17:28
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answered by usefulidiot230 3
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And if they do that, you and other republicans would be on Yahoo! Answers stating they were trying to take over. By the way, when Pelosi went to the Middle East to try to solve it, republicans lost their mind stating she was stepping out of bounds, which is another lie.
Cutting and running, stay the course, and the rest of that is bad republican rhetoric. It means nothing...
2007-07-19 12:58:16
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answered by linus_van_pelt_4968 5
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when the country is being ran with a congress than has a 16 percent approval rating what would you expect them to do,
Get it right ?
Maybe they would have more support if they understood issues important to most Americans and not just those that can spend all day on the Internet.
Can I hear another Dean war cry?
BTW, didn't we already WIN, as our goal was to remove Sodam Insane from power and that's been done. The US spent and are still in countries that we had conflicts with in the past. In Germany, Japan, Korea etc .... we didn't just declare victory and rap up the troops the next day and leave. 50 years latter and we are still in Korea.
2007-07-18 14:11:07
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answered by dam 5
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Democrats Will Run Over If they Win.
Dont count Your Chickens Before They Hatch!!!
2007-07-18 14:03:59
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answered by Dollbaby 3
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Why would they do that? They have no interests in winning the war, only in winning the 08 elections.
2007-07-18 14:18:50
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answered by yupchagee 7
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Because there is no question about how we win the war.
We vote to declare victory. There, we've won.
Since we're the only ones defining our objectives and goals, and since there is no single enemy that can surrender to us, the only way we can "win" is to arbitrarily declare that we've accomplished what we wanted to accomplish. There's nobody else who has any say as to what our goals are.
Iraq is in the middle of a civil/sectarian war. We're not one of the sides in that conflict. We're just there to support on of the sides in that conflict. And that side has already said we can leave any time we want to. So, there's nothing of us to "win" unless we declare winning as ending all violence in the region.
And given that the violence in the region has been going on for over a thousand years -- it's not likely to end any time soon.
So, debating "how to win" is meaningless, since we win as soon as we decide we've won. Or we lose as soon as we decide we lose. It's like debating how to choose your favorite color -- nobody else gets a vote, so there is no issue to debate. You just declare, and you're done.
2007-07-18 14:16:30
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answered by coragryph 7
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How could anyone recognize them as Democrats, if they can't use soap-box dramatics to make emotional appeals to the gullible nit-wits who support them?
But they're not worried, cause they know the Republicans will work it all out while they're sleeping in those portable beds with their mistresses.
2007-07-18 14:25:52
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answered by Anonymous
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