Libs, Who should make more money, a brain surgeon, or an artist?

Question

Why do you think artists should be able to charge anything they want for a painting, but doctors should have set prices for health care?

What gives YOU the right to tell someone they aren't allowed to do what every other occupation in the U.S. can do?

Why do YOU think just because YOU need health care, that SOMEONE ELSE has to go to medical school, and treat you for non competitive wages?

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special obligations to all human beings, does not mean they get free health care!!!

And for the artist on his high horse, get off it, because although I respect talent from people, self ruinousness in artists makes them look like pathetic dirtbags.

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and to say, "because everyone will need a doctor",, well, why don't YOU become a doctor, and see all those needy people yourself. Stop demanding it of someone else!

Answer 1

uh, most artists work isn't of any real value until after they die and the conservative corporations either try to sell it or buy it as an investment.

just chalk this guy up as another one who just doesn't get it.

but don't ask him why the ama limits the number of doctors that the usa produces each year - his poor little head might explode.

Answer 2

The problem with your question is parallel to the question of why are diamonds more valuable than water when water is useful and diamonds are not. The reason is a combination of demand which is low cost for general viewers and for those whose demand is less flexible it is created by premium pricing for fan goods, pay per view and ticket costs. So you have the ability to discriminate on the basis of price and so sports get higher than normal net revenues. Access to supply is both restricted artificially AND suppliers can discriminate using prices. The second is supply of players. Very few players are needed due to the restrictions. There is an exact number of possible slots available. Competition drives the best players into those slots. At the bottom level of skill, say t-ball or little league, the impact of slight differences in skill and talent is small. At the top levels pretty small changes can be the difference between a win and a loss. Remember that sports is binary, you win or you lose. Most sports don't permit ties. A tenth of a second advantage will not matter at all among a group of fifth graders, but at the global level a tenth of a second determines many races, and often a small fraction of that. There is a lot of money funneled into very few people.

Answer 3

I'm not a lib but I can answer you cause I'm an artist, a multi award winning artist to be exact.

And artist has a natural talent that you can't just study to achieve. Anyone can study to be a doctor. If you are diligent enough and keep at it, anyone can be a doctor. In my field, there are no classes. It's something you have to develop on your own. It's bigger and better than any doctor can do. A doctor charges a certain price for one surgical procedure and he does that one thing many times in his life where as the artist (in most cases) will produce one piece of art and never do it again. I have a painting I did 10 years ago and many have wanted to buy it but I choose not to sell it because it's dear to me and it's a part of my life. When I'm dead it wil be worth a lot more than it is now. When a doctor is dead, his surgical skills die with him.

Answer 4

A career in the arts is very much a crapshoot. A tiny number of artist - typically through some fad - become wildly successful and demand obscene sums of money for work of little or no merit. (See link for an example from my home town). The vast majority either starve or go into advertising, selling thier dreams for a decent salary and an ulcer at 32.

Doctors, on the other hand, not only have to master a very challenging field, but have to run a veritable gauntlet of irrational traditional requirements. Those who succeed make very good money, but, really, in proportion to the effort it takes to enter the career, not an unreasonable amount.

Answer 5

Because every person at some point in their life will require some kind of health care and should be in able to afford it without having to choose between that and eating or something else essential.
As far as the art goes, who really cares if another piece of art is ever sold? It just means that artists will have to find another way to make a living and if that is the case it would be nobody's fault but their own for overpricing some of that garbage they call "art".

Answer 6

I agree with this statement: "self riotousness in artists makes them look like pathetic dirt-bags" I really hate artists that think they are the s***. Although, if you think art is priced too high... don't buy it, it won't kill you.

On the other hand, if you think medical care is priced too high and you can't afford it, well now that might just kill you.

I recently read an article about how ambulances will drive a patient to a neighborhood and drop them in the middle of a random street (where there is no one to help them) after they find out the patient does not have insurance.
insurance.

Answer 7

An artist. The works contribute to humanity for generations. Everyone remembers a muse. We remember Rembrandt, not his doctor. We remember Michaelangelo not his doctor. We remember Picasso not his doctor.We remember Mr. Spock not Dr. Spock.

Oh yes we remember Doctors. Doctor Livingstone, he sacrificed his life, earned almost no money in bringing modern medicine. Albert Schweitzer, a man, a doctor who gave everything to service mankind and a doctor. They had little wealth. Today's doctors are not here for mankind as a group they are greedy and evil.

Wounded soldiers in Iraq are saved by advanced medical techniques in forward field hospitals on a system. That system comes not from greed. It wasn't founded in Iraq, it wasn't founded in WWII. No the system was founded in the mid 1930's by a volunteer Canadian doctor by the name of Norman Bethune working in combat with the Red Army in China. And he died in service giving. He got no wealth from work. But his gift, his free medical artistry gave thousands of soldiers, your friends life. So America owes so much to a Canadian, a doctor, and a socialist. That's memorable. That sort of thing sticks in memory.

Now if you claim to advocate a moral ethical stance. Even Jesus railed against the money lenders. Money is the root of all evil. Therefore it is appropriate that you advocate the support of greed by money. Now you advocate, you measure by giving evil to the deserving doctors in your idea.

Brain surgeons only do operations on rich Republicans. Which begs the question how can these guys live on a vacuum?

So artists need not your money to prove who they are. The works they do... carries a greater reward. Their bodies suffer in poverty and die because they have little money. But from the ashes of their dreams it inspires future generations, molds future generations. Sates the quest of society for leadership in recording their contemporary world.

Doctors do nothing of that. They are such small people. They measure success in the size of the bank account, and the numbers of Mercedes parked in the garage. Medical types who seek money over service get rewarded by ignominy and disappear from human memory quickly.

Art is eternal. It sustains. It inspires. It lights. It is good. So it can never be compensated in any measure. It is beyond money. Beyond consumate evil.

These are not the evil people, these artists. It is appropriate that Conservatives measure everything in money not deeds. Doctors demand no respect. They just demand more and more money. So it is entirely appropriate that you a Conservative advocate, promote this need to move evil about to those deserving of it. Evil sees what evil does.

Answer 8

Micheal Vick

Answer 9

who do you think should make more money
A teacher, and a police officer responsible for our young children and our saftey


or


a guy who can throw a ball into a hoop or take an object and push it to the other side of a field?

Answer 10

its not a question of capitalism, it is a question of morals.......


I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.


Hippocratic Oath

I will repeat
with special obligations to ALL of my fellow human beings