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2007-07-18 11:07:14 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

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2007-07-18 11:14:40 · update #1

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Look at the lives of these famous occultists, and then decide if it works:

Henry Cornielius Agrippa von Nettesheim Despite all this occult knowledge, he died in poverty at age 41 in 1532.

Cagliostro did the most embarrassing things, like putting a teacup on his erect penis and telling women "This is the only Bishop you will bow to!" He died in the Bastille in 1795.

John Dee discovered Enochian Magick and tried unsuccessfully to get the spirits to bring him money. He spent the final years of his life stripped of his honors and income and was forced to live incommunicado. He died in extreme poverty at 81.

Paracelsus . Physician, occultist and astrologer. He died broke at the age of 48.

Edward Kelly After failing to strike it rich with Enochian Magick, he was killed trying to escape prison. He had been imprisoned for his old hobby, counterfeiting.

Aleister Crowley had a nervous breakdown in spent 4 months in an insane asylum after trying to conjure a demon in a Paris hotel. In 1947 he died impoverished in a flophouse, forgotten by his family, a drug addict and alcoholic, despite strating out in life as a rich heir to Crowley Ale. He squandered it all on drugs and whores. "Success is your proof " - -Liber Al Vel Legis 3:46, Aleister Crowley

Gurdijef was a Russian con man who got involved in many money making scams. Once he dyed sparrows in peroxide and sold them as canaries! Even his biographers admit he had a "streak of charaltainism" about him. He created a system of bunk psychotherapy which is convoluted and even people who practice it can't clearly explain what is. In other words, it was the forerunner of Scientology.

Christian Rosenkrutz never actually existed. The whole Rosicrucian thing was started as a joke to make fun of occultists by a Lutheran minister named Valentin Andrea.

The Fox Sisters started the whole spiritist/seance’ movement in 1840. Years later they confessed the whole thing had been a hoax, but no one wanted to listen.

Samuel "Macgregor" Mathers Eventually all the members of te Golden Dawn figured out Mathers lied about the secret chiefs, which led to him being kicked out, & the Golden Dawn being disbanded. He died in poverty from Pnumonia in 1918.

Jack Parsons blew himself up in his basement, making nitroglycerin, which he sold on the black market to supplement his income (apparently his money spells didn't work, either!).

Pamela Coleman Smith painted the illustrations for Authur Edward Waite's tarot deck. She died penniless and alone in a London flat.

Paschal Beverly Randolph inspired people like Aleister Crowley, the members of the O.:T.:O.:., and Henri Gamache. His books are still in print. He committed suicide at age 44, leaving his wife and son to live in poverty.

They couldn't make the occult work, neither can anyone else.
Here's a quote from Wiccan Tradition Head Silver Ravenwolf:

" For years I couldn't afford to go to a hair stylist (still can't, it's shop and chop for me). I got pretty good at stying my own hair from looking at magazine pictures" [SOURCE: Teen Witch, Llewellyn Publications, 2003 edition, page 145]

She also wrote a book about Prosperity spells. Does she sound like she can make it work? She can't even afford a hairdresser! My wife just spent $100 at the beauty parlor and we're far from rich.

Here's another quote from that same book:

""A lot of people tell me how bad their lives have gotten after casting a spell and tell me they won't do Witchcraft anymore. I tell them their lives would have been much worse for not having cast the spell".

If you want to really have a good life, ditch the occult.

http://usminc.org/famous.html

2007-07-18 11:14:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Yes, spells can work, but it's not like using a blender, that anyone can just push a button and get results, without even reading the instructions.

How long depends heavily on the particular spell. Most have timelines built in, or have a deadline as part of the intention, of the person doing the magic. Whether or not it works depends a lot on the level of understanding of the practitioner- the better you understand the spell, the better it will work. Remember- it won't always work in the way you expect, so keep your eyes open for the results.

If you're trying to do magic to hurt or influence someone, recall that it will come back to you three-fold. It's better to change yourself, so that whatever was done becomes of little importance.

2007-07-18 11:22:49 · answer #2 · answered by RogueSpirit 2 · 0 0

It's a lot simpler than you might think. There are no rules, really, but this is the 3-step process that I use:

1.) Program it.
2.) Charge it.
3.) Release it.

Slightly more detailed explanation:

1.) Program it. What I mean by this is to imprint a physical object with your intent. I'll illustrate this with a simple example. If your goal is money, decide exactly how much you want. Write your desire on a piece of green paper (or whatever color represents money to you). You have now programmed a physical object with your intent.

2.) Charge it. Hold the piece of paper in your hand while doing something that raises your personal energy. This could be any of a number of things ... jumping around to a favorite song, riding a roller coaster, etc. When you feel that your energy is near its peak, imagine it flowing down your arm and into the piece of paper.

3.) Release it. This is a symbolic act of letting go of your desire and scattering it to the winds, so to speak. Since I'm using paper as an example, one way to do this would be to burn it. Your desire will be carried up to the heavens with the rising smoke.

Steps 1 and 2 can be combined if you are in a highly charged state while programming the object.

That's it. As for how long it takes, that depends on a number of factors, but try not to think about it too much. When the time is right, it will come to you.

2007-07-18 11:42:57 · answer #3 · answered by dru 3 · 0 0

That depends. What kinds of spells are we talking about? I know a lot of Harry Potter, but that's probably not what you mean. Spells themselves are not meant to cause instant results just by waving a wand and muttering an incantation under a full moon; they're meant to supplement existing efforts. Ergo, don't cast a spell to get a job and sit around doing nothing; you'll still have to go out looking for one. Spells just improve your chances.
As such there isn't really a definite time frame for "This spell starts working 3 days after casting and completes itself within 1 week." Whatever you're after, you'll still have to work on it.
Also, I don't know any spells personally. Go to Barnes and Noble or Borders or a similar bookstore and ask the customer service people about books on Wicca, paganism, etcetera. Also, if you're still in school and you live somewhere with at least a mildly dense population, there's likely to be a collection of Wicca kids. They might be hard to find, and sadly, a lot of them are posers, but ask around and you'll probably find some.

2007-07-22 09:07:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I tried a spell, it didn't work, I forgot what spell it even was. My sister tried a spell so this guy would leave her alone, and it worked for her. Mainly, as long as you have faith it will work, it WILL work. If you have doubts, then it probably won't. It really depends on how long it will take. If it's some love spell it might take a while. If it's some, "make that guy leave me alone" spell, it'll probably get results faster.

And it helps to do the spell on a certain day where the spell would work at its best. You'll have to look up those days.

2007-07-18 12:44:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I cast spells on a fairly regular basis. They do work, and usually within a day or two. A justice spell, for instance, resulted in an arrest three days later.

Sometimes it takes longer--when I did a spell asking for a new job opportunity, it took nearly two months for everything to fall into place. But it was worth it, and tomorrow I start my new job.

Many of my spells--such as the wards around my house--are ongoing. These require renewal occasionally, but they have an immediate and visible (to me, anyway) effect.

Generally, if you don't see effects within a week or so, try again.

2007-07-18 13:04:22 · answer #6 · answered by Jewel 7 · 0 0

Spells shouldn't be considered anything more than touching something deep inside oneself to cause a change. For instance, casting a money spell still requires you to get a job, but perhaps you'll have more confidence in the interview. A love spell might open your consciousness to possibilities around you.
Spells are only as powerful as the will set behind them.

2007-07-18 15:46:25 · answer #7 · answered by Frootbat31 6 · 0 0

If you are asking if spells work, you may never have one work. Believing in the legitimacy of spells is a large part of working with spells. I have used spells for many years. For each spell I pay a price in energy and patience. I have never had a spell work on my timetable. Spells are an amalgam of all that surrounds us and at times the shift is quick, but sometimes very slow in coming to fruition.

The same is true of christian prayers and miracles.

2007-07-18 11:22:18 · answer #8 · answered by Terry 7 · 1 1

yes spells work. It varies in how long the spell takes to manifest. Get a book on wicca and do some research. You can be a solitaire in no time

2007-07-18 11:11:12 · answer #9 · answered by suga...honey honey 5 · 0 0

There are a varety of different types of magic, and depending of the type of spell you are casting the can take anywhere from a few seconds, to years. Most of the "bring me wealth" "Bring me a (signifigant other of your preference here)" happen within 28 days of casting, though they can take as long as six weeks.

2007-07-18 19:31:34 · answer #10 · answered by Oswald F 3 · 0 0

They are hard to prove as it is subtle.

It isnt a matter of creating something from nothing, it is using the energy around us to change certain things or persuade our fates to do something in our favour/help another etc.

You can't just learn from someone telling you on here due to the dangers involved. It involves drawing energy from things around you, be it in Necromancy from drawing it from the deceased or the people around you, or lighter forms where you draw it from nature/the elements etc.

You need to learn to utilise that energy and then release whatever is left in a safe manner. If you don't then you can cause yourself a fair amount of harm.

If you truely wish to learn the ways of witchcraft, the first and most important thing to learn is meditation and visualisation.

2007-07-18 11:12:23 · answer #11 · answered by Xzar 6 · 2 0

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