NFL Michael Vick suspension...?

Question

Do you think the NFL should suspend Michael Vick indefiniately for his involvement with Bad Newz Kennel dog fighting? I do...he is sick.

Answer 1

I think they will wait until he is convicted or pleads out the case, then they will hit him hard. He would have been much better off telling Goodell the truth from the beginning, but he is being found to be a liar in Goodell's eyes. If he would have told Goodell the truth behind closed doors, well Goodell would still have to suspend him after conviction/plea deal, but only for a minimum number of games. I think Goodell might now suspend him for a year and have a big fight with the Union over it.

But Goodell will certainly want to set an example that you don't lie to the commissioner..

Answer 2

No Creature was put here on Earth to be bet on...yet those that bet DO bet on any and every Creature that someone else will accept the bet on...INCLUDING FOOTBALL PLAYERS.
Why did it become o.k. to bet on everything else EXCEPT DOG FIGHTING?
Individuals bet on boxers and fighters of other kind beating the crap out of one another in the ring and some of them DIE as a result of the beating they take in the ring; but bet on a dog and you're the worst human in God's Creation.
I don't agree with or condone dog fighting or mistreatment of animals of any kind in any way and I also don't agree with punishing someone unjustly.
On many shows on ESPN, they spoke of suspension and various other forms of sitting Vick down and or preventing him from playing football.
At present, a suspension or any other action brought against him by the NFL or Falconn's owners, imo, would be punishing him for something that has yet to be proven that he did.

The 'Lectric Law Library's
* Legal Lexicon's Lyceum
on http://www.lectlaw.com/def/i030.htm gives this definition of the word:
INDICTMENT - A formal accusation of a felony, issued by a grand jury after considering evidence presented by a prosecutor. The formal charge issued by a grand jury stating that there is enough evidence that the defendant committed the crime to justify having a trial; it is used primarily for felonies.

Having evidence that suggests ones guilt, then charging and being able to prove that guilt is an entirely different matter.
Betting on dog fights is one thing; owning and having that dog fight and kill or contribute to the death of another dog, including the dog's owner killing it for someone's sport and profit is quite another matter.
I won't get into the "if" or "so and so was given this or that when he did or didn't do such and such" game because that is not how the LAW works.
There are DEGREES to law and crime and punishment and that punishment comes AFTER the individual(s) that have ALLEGEDLY committed the crime(s) have been convicted.
Robert Goodell, the present NFL Commissioner and TEAM OWNERS should do the same; i.e. wait until if and after the player is convicted and THEN, if they are so inclined, find a way within their realm to punish him as well.
I don't even believe it is legal to suspend a person from their livelihood simply because they are suspected of and or charged with criminal activity.
Keep in mind; it is ONLY AN INDICTMENT.
The trial judge or jury might find in Vick's favor.
If one or the other find him guilty, I trust that the punishment will fit the crime.

Answer 3

The NFL has to be politically correct?

Terrance the PC thing to do is suspend him! This is insanely bad PR for the NFL! If another player killed somebody they wouldn't set around and wait for a trial! This is a Federal Prosecution of a FELONY people, not some hick DA charging a random person of jaywalking!

The NFL and the Falcons have dug this hole deep! They've spent so much time and money into pumping up Vick that they made him one of the visible players in the league! No this comes about and they have no choice but to cut their loses. Can you even imagine the signs in the stadium when Vick goes anywhere to play? For his own safety he should be sent home until after the trial is done!

Anyone who sides with Vick is killing themselves in terms of PR, NFLPA couldn't fight for Vick if suspended. The crime is way too disgusting and the public backlash would be unbearable!

Answer 4

The NFL does not need another sick person like that. Thsi should be a suspension, even though trial hasn't started. Dogs are not put on earth to be bet on and then killed for losing. That is sick, who cares if it's some super star. Also, Atlanta should boot Vick and try to get Culpepper so nobody will think they are racist, seeing that Vick and Atalnta has a huge african american fan base.

Answer 5

I think they should suspend him for 10 games out of the gates. It is consistent with what was handed down for Pac Man and Chris Henry. I don't think you can ban him until he is convicted. If he is convicted he'll be off to jail for quite a while (it;s a serious felony with a hefty punishment), but given the nature of the crimes I believe you do ban him at that point. In the meantime you should give him a heavy suspension in the name of tarnishing the good NFL name and being consistent, but to get away with "indefinately" (this will drag on for over a year potentially from what I understand and precedent gives Roger Godell 10 games to work with for a not repeat offender before you get some sort of admission i.e. plea, confession or conviction) you will need due process to run it's course.

Answer 6

They can't. If the Nfl decided to suspend on an indictment they would be stuck in arbitrations with the NFLPA and law suits from vick, until the actual verdict came down. Plus the league doesn't want to alienate players that they need. If the league decided to suspend him now all other players will begin to look at the league differently. The NFL must be politically correct with this thing because it has the ability to blow up in their face.

Answer 7

"In a raid conducted on April 25 and 26, local and state law enforcement officials found 70 dogs—including at least 60 pit bulls and many dogs who reportedly were neglected, scarred, and malnourished—on quarterback Vick's rural Surry County, Virginia, property. Some of the animals evidently bear scars and injuries, and paraphernalia commonly associated with dogfighting—including a "rape stand"—are also said to have been found on the property.


Humane officers and other law enforcement officials routinely break up illegal dogfighting rings and confiscate dogfighting paraphernalia, including treadmills used to build the dogs' endurance and drugs used either to numb pain caused by injuries or to "jazz up" the dogs. According to Vick's indictment, even if the losing dogs survived, they met a cruel fate, "sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution, or some other method."



Yes, I think they should suspend him. That's the LEAST they can do.

And then I think they should tie him up naked and throw him in a room full of those dogs. All 70 of them.

Answer 8

If he does get suspended it won't be for to long. If you remember, the commisioner said that suspensions will be handed out to repeated offenders, which Vick is not. But considering how bad this was...i would say that depending on the legal outcome, he will be suspended 3 games tops by the Falcons, not by the league.



The guy below me namedTerrance is 100% correct.

Answer 9

I dont believe they should suspend him until the case is decided. Im a hugs ATL fan a was a huge Vick fan until this all came out. If he is found guilty then yea he has to go. You cant condone the things they are accusing him of.

Answer 10

No, not yet anyway, let's wait and see what the court decides.
Also, nobody in the NFL and very few NFL fans care what PETA thinks. I assume that anybody that really does is a vegetarian or a hypocrite. I don't think many PETA members are having tailgate barbeques.