Some of their actions border on treasonous. Baghdad Rosie is a fine example of a traitor and the liberals do not distance themselves from her. They embrace her radical subversive thinking.
2007-07-18 05:57:33 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
I found this today on a blog, loved it.
"Experience proves that the man who obstructs a war in which his nation is engaged, no matter whether right or wrong, occupies no enviable place in life or history. Better for him, individually, to advocate "war, pestilence, and famine," than to act as an obstructionist to a war already begun... The most favorable posthumous history the stay-at-home traitor can hope for is--oblivion." - President U.S. Grant
2007-07-18 08:34:42 · answer #1 · answered by rmagedon 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Rosie is a nothing. Why are you so obcessed with her? Maybe she is accomplishing what she has set out to do. She riles conservatives and gets people talking. She is kind of a counter to Ann Coulter. We need both sides speaking out.
I don't think liberals confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. It is a matter of degrees. If one is a right wing radical even a middle of the roader who may barely disagree with some of the current policies is disloyal and a traitor. To one who thinks reasonably and up the center one sees that democracy thrives on difference of opinion and dissent. Each side may get carried away in their commentary but I doubt Rosie or anyone else wants to see the end of the US. They just want policy changes and the President ot listen, for once, to what the will of the people is.
I know you radicals are hard to convince but that is just the way it is.
2007-07-18 06:21:18 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Well I guess as long as you are the one deciding what is dissent and what is treason, how can we not be confused?
Now exactly what aid and comfort has Rosie given to the enemy? Do you think that Muslim extremists listen to any thing that an American Entertainer who is a woman, and lesbian, has to say. Their answer to Rosie would be death by stoning no matter what she said or did.
And if what she has said is treason, we don't have enough rope to hang everybody guilty of same.
2007-07-18 06:43:56 · answer #3 · answered by jehen 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
There are a few, but no more than conservatives who confuse patriotism with nationalism. I DO distance myself from Rosie. She does not speak for me.
dissent - to differ in opinion or feeling; disagree.
subvert - to undermine the character, morals, or allegiance of; corrupt. OR to destroy completely; ruin
One needs to ask oneself what the "character, morals, or allegiance" of the country are and what is being done to "ruin" them. This nation was founded on the ideals of a government of, by, and for the people. It was founded on the idea that too much government leads to bad government (Thomas Jefferson), on the Constitutional notion of checks and balances. Neither party has held true to these ideals, therefore BOTH can be considered subversive. I suggest you read NSPD 51 issued by our President to see his latest attempt to subvert the Constitution, the cornerstone of our nation.
Treason, however, is defined as "violation of allegiance toward ones country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of ones country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies." Words, protected by free speech, are not treasonous - actions are.
I do not embrace anyone's radical "subversive" thinking. I am quite capable of thinking for myself. Seems like the only ones hanging on Rosie's every word are those on the right, looking for cannonfodder. Most liberals (myself included) dismiss her as a raving, bitter nutjob.
2007-07-18 06:50:40 · answer #4 · answered by john_stolworthy 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
He skill shouldn't. Now you have me correcting presidents. interior the context of the fact his is actual yet while it is an remoted quote he skill do no longer confuse dissent as subversion.
2016-11-09 19:37:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
So liberals embrace the Baghdad Rosie person that I've never heard of?
You got some Gallup poll results on that?
Oh, I see from responses it's Rosie O'Donnell, no I don't look to celebrities for my viewpoints.
2007-07-18 06:09:13 · answer #6 · answered by Le BigMac 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
What we see here is personalization of issues, demonization, and distortion. Rosie O' Donnell is not the issue. She is not an elected official. All she has is an opinion, which we are all allowed to have, even if it's misinformed and malicious, like yours. How in the world can her opinion subvert anything? It is YOU see no difference between dissent and subversion, not Liberals.
2007-07-18 06:08:16 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 2⤋
what do you mean 'disloyal'? Why on earth should anyone be loyal to a system of government as corrupt as the US government? Active disloyalty would seem to me to be what's called for! Sometimes subversion is the only way to get rid of a malignant government, as the French Resistance found in WW2.
2007-07-18 06:10:52 · answer #8 · answered by SLF 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
To be honest, I think that is the problem that a lot of us have with Liberals. It is one thing when someone comes out with a comment which is degrading towards something that we stand for, but it is a completely new league when the Liberals stand by that. To me, it shows that they cannot think for themselves!
If the Liberals can own up and "shun" the person who feels the need to degrade something, that is different.
That is why I will never vote for a Liberal- you are never voting for just one.
2007-07-18 06:15:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Why is she called "Baghdad Rosie"? I see no crimes of treason or subversion being committed by her. She is not suppling our enemies with money or weapons or anything of the sort.
2007-07-18 06:14:55 · answer #10 · answered by Sangria 4 · 3⤊ 3⤋