Did You Notice How Liberals Are Lying About " If We Leave Iraq They'll Follow Us Here " ? I Have And You

Question

I have noticed and you should too . Lately , it seems to be the newest 'en vogue' way of lying from the Liberals . I guess their new found lie is catching on with other liars and just plain stupid people . Take a look around and you'll see people posting that Republicans , Conservatives , and President Bush claimed that 'we wouldn't get hit if we didn't leave Iraq' . What an outright lie that absolutely no one said .
Ya see , the liberals , so hellbent on Hatred and Lying , decided it's quite alright to lie some more and change the phrase 'If we leave Iraq , the terrorists will follow us here' . At no point did anyone say that we wouldn't be attacked if we stayed . Now I presume some of these liberals know that , but choose to lie anyway . And they also know that the best way for them to garner even more votes is to lie to the stupid people hoping that they'll believe this garbage .

I wonder , if the liberal agenda is so great , then why do they need to lie ?

Foxy girrl - You should know that your answer to a previous question was the inspiration for asking this one . And ya still don't get it , do ya !!
FYI young lady , Al Queda is operating in many places . Any mind capable of discernment knows the huge difference between the two statements .
Good luck in life . . . I have a feeling you're gonna need it .

Old bASS-hole - See my response to 'foxy' . No need to change a word in it for you .

Foxy - Perhaps you should read the entire post . The titled question does not include the explanation needed . But the contents do !!

Why does it appear that liberals are not reading the contents ? I know the Republicans were the ones who rightly said 'if we leave , then they'll follow us here' . The question is why have the liberals CHANGED it to 'we won't get attacked if we stay' . The 2 phrases are NOT interchangable . Take your time , breathe a little , and see a doctor cause you got a case of 'Blind Hatred ' .

Gemini and Remember The GOP - Perhaps I should've posted this in a forum with more intelligent people . This one is obviously WAAAAAAAAAy over your heads .

Dreadneck - Hey , great vocabulary !! Now where's the 'logicical discernment' ???

typo - 'logical' .

Answer 1

It's a typical smear tactic to garner support and votes. Just like the grandstanding that I've been watching on C-Span 2. Nothing is going to come out of it, but to the 'sheeples', it looks good. :)

Answer 2

I haven't seen this statement made by anybody, but I don't doubt that it happens. I have however seen many conservatives present the idea that if we stay in Iraq we are safer by default. This is true in a sense because we are tying up their personnel, money and other resources, but it is temporary at best. The United States is no more or less safer than we were before the invasion of Iraq and it is a given that we will be hit again at some point no matter how long the war continues. My problem with the terrorism argument regarding Iraq is that it appears many conservatives believe that we have the right to keep Iraq in a perpetual state of war just so we can feel safer. I consider this opinion selfish and destructive.

To listen too many conservatives tell the story you would get the impression that everyone in Iraq is either a terrorist or a supporter and that the country will immediately fall under terrorist control the minute we leave. Then at the same time they will talk about the Iraqis as though they love us and want us to stay indefinitely. Neither assertion is completely true. My thought is pick a plan and go with it. Either the Iraqis are terrorists and we should kill everyone we can, or they are mostly decent people who will stand up for themselves against that type of oppression, but we can't have it both ways.

Answer 3

How on Earth did I miss my "en vogue" memo? And there is NOTHING dishonorable about taking your logically faulty statement to any number of diametric conclusions or possibilities.

Quite often, I have heard pro occupation/ war supporters make the claim that "IF WE LEAVE IRAQ, THE TERRORISTS WILL FOLLOW US HERE" or something to that effect. Is it then a stretch, i.e. "a lie", to attach a logical conclusion to that thought? This is simply a case of using MODAL LOGIC. You've made a statement that can't be proven, but you want to attach a HEAVIER onus to any OPPOSITION to your original statement.

What does the quote "IF WE LEAVE IRAQ, THE TERRORISTS WILL FOLLOW US HERE" mean by inference? Isn't it logical to assume that the CONVERSE is likely if an action is ANTIPODAL?

The problem is that you want it BOTH ways. Reason dictates that by stating "IF WE LEAVE IRAQ, THE TERRORISTS WILL FOLLOW US HERE" means that, by proxy, if we stay, then the terrorists will stay (there). If part and parcel of the reason(s) that we CHOSE Iraq as a battlefield was to take the fight TO the terrorists, then we MUST have assumed that we were taking the fight AWAY from us.
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Answer 4

The truly Ignorant are those that actually believe that every terrorist in the world is hiding behind a rock in Iraq,and that someday We'll(US Military) kill ALL of them and keep our quivering mass safe. What the Hell does the War in Iraq have to do with preventing Bin Laden (Pakistan Border area,at least the intelligence "THINKS, he's there,) from plotting and carrying out an attack ? And how many years had some of the Saudi participants (Twin towers) lived and worked in the states before the attack ? Please,Do yourselves a favor and open both eyes..!The ideology will come from abroad,but the threat will be from within....The New World Order...Get used to it...!
Edit: After reading the contents of the multi-paragraphed ,poorly worded aspiration for intellectual substance, I will conclude...The Iraqi Conflict has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Osama Bin Laden,or his counterparts have not,and/or will not attack the U.S.,thus BOTH sides of the argument are moot !

Answer 5

Politically, i'm a mutt, yet liberal leaning. so a good distance, it looks like i visit be balloting for John McCain. i don't trust him lots the time, this is for particular. yet I DO have faith him for all time. He has greater very own integrity, complexity, and genuine humility than the all the others and has by no ability jumped on a bandwagon in his existence. they are the two genuine: the Iraqi war IS a tragedy; the effect of withdrawal at this element would be severe, precisely as he describes. in comparison to him, I by no ability supported the war on the rattling the torpedoes foundation all of us started it. There are 3 innovations: increase, withdraw or proceed as is. Which one is physically powerful? all of them suck, in spite of the shown fact that it particularly is what it particularly is.

Answer 6

The obvious implication of Bush’s statements is that we are safer from terrorism if we stay in Iraq. That is false. The attempt to convince Americans of this false idea has failed. We know that staying in Iraq is not making us safer. We also know that the invasion of Iraq has made us much less safe.

Don’t blame liberals for using Bush’s own nonsensical ideas against him. He’s the one making the statements that make no sense.

Answer 7

so how much does the RNC pay professional blogger/trolls these days? i could use an extra couple of bucks. is there a test? should i go read up on promoting lies, untruths, deceit, and misinformation? or do you just wing it, making up this nonsense as you go?

and what makes you hate america so much that you practice this heinous "wedge politics" agenda? sometimes it seems you should replace that THC in your name to PCP. i have to say this is the first time i've ever seen anyone say "we wouldn't get hit if we didn't leave Iraq."

Answer 8

there's a good chance that the United States will be hit whether troops stay in Iraq or come home. The people who will attack here are probably already in place. The people you are fighting in Iraq are only fighting you because you are there. What do you think they are, little puppies that will trail behind you? Does bringing the troops home also mean closing your customs departments? Give your head a shake.

Answer 9

first of all this is not a qeustion. liberals like myself will argue against you and republicans will just say that they noticed that.

but honestly republicans lie as well, like mr. bush when he talked about WMDs that didnt exist and then reverted to getting foreign oil.

I think you might be confused. liberals never say that they will follow us home if we leave. that is a conservative viewpoint. liberals are the ones who want to leave, after some prerequisite steps are taken.

people lie regardless of party, so dont make it black-and-white liberals lie, conservatives are honest.

but why do i care? you only wrote this question to value answers like "because liberals are *******" and "liberals cant face the fact that theyre wrong."

Answer 10

"If we leave Iraq there will be chaos, there will be genocide, and they will follow us home."
- John McCain

"If we don't defeat them in Iraq, they will follow us here."
- George W. Bush

"Who doesn't believe that if we don't deal with terrorists in Iraq, we will be dealing with them on the streets of America?"
- John Boehner