Dumbledore seemed to think that the prophecy concerning Harry and Voldemort didn't mean much for itself. That it was only fulfilled because Voldemort found out about it and, by becoming obcessed with it, determined it's fulfillment. But Professor Trelawney made that other prophecy in Prisoner of Azkaban (relating to the Dark Lord's servant escaping and joining his master) and it too was fulfilled (Pettigrew escaped and went to join Voldemort and that was vital for V's return). And nobody heard that prophecy except Harry. Doesn't it seem that when Trelawney makes prophecies without knowing she's making them they come true? Is there another explanation for this in the books that I don't remember? And if not, do you have a theory? Maybe Dumbledore was a bit stubborn about not believing Divination...
2007-07-17 10:43:00 · 8 answers · asked by Butterfly 2 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Books & Authors
Yeah i get your point why would one prophecy not have come true if no one heard but her 2nd prophecy came true either way. Hmmm... That is tricky but rememebr, the 1st prophecy only talked about the one with the power to vanquish the dark lord approaches not him fighting him. So i guess harry and neville being born on it's own fulfilled the prophecy.
2007-07-17 10:49:52 · answer #1 · answered by Momo70707 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If Sirus had just grabbed Scabbers (Wormtail) then, the trio might not have followed him to the Shrieking Shack, and Wormtail would have died. If Snape had heard the entire prophecy, Voldemort might not have gone after a kid (Harry or Nevile). I can see where you are coming from, but the fact is that Voldemort DID find out about it. I think that Rowling has some belief is destiny, and that what happens happens, and there is no avoiding it. And anyway, Dumbledore told Harry that not every prophecy was fulfilled
2007-07-17 10:58:52 · answer #2 · answered by Merlin820 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
As I recall Dumbledore was pointing out that where as Voldemort had locked himself into following the prophecy to the letter, Harry was free to choose his own path. Voldemort is so determined to know what exactly the prophecy says and in killing Harry that he's blinded to other possibilities. Harry's open to finding other ways.
2007-07-17 11:11:38 · answer #3 · answered by knight1192a 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Voldemort only ever heard half of the prophecy. It was his actions that made part of the prophecy come true. When he went to Grodric Hallow to kill Harry he unknowingly marked Harry as the choosen one, the one that would defeat him. Dumbledore also points out that porphecies do not always come true and that the choices that people make affect if a prophecy comes true.
2007-07-17 10:51:02 · answer #4 · answered by Sarah 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I dont really think that in the 4th book that was a prophecy more like a vision I think.... and not all prophecies come true... only if a witch or wizard wants to live their life that way
2007-07-17 11:46:42 · answer #5 · answered by ♥miss liss♥ 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's an interesting paradox. If the prophecy had not been made, it would not have happened. Voldie never would have attacked Harry. But the fact that the prophecy WAS made makes it true.
2007-07-17 11:09:21 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
he said he thought it was wooly, but that was what he thought before he heard the prophecy
2007-07-17 11:38:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I do see your point and it makes sense when she tryes to hjard she makes it up but if she is not trying it can come from her. I can not think of any other cases yet.
2007-07-17 10:47:03 · answer #8 · answered by Mim 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋