Will history judge harshly those who want to pull out of Iraq?

Question

More Republicans have defected to the withdraw-from-Iraq Democrats. They have read the polls that show falling support among the American people for the war in Iraq, and have concluded that continuing to support the war will cost them their Senate or House seat.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2007/07/17/history_will_judge_harshly_those_for_withdrawal_from_iraq

rmegadon....I stand and applaud...great answer...

Answer 1

I think the writer made a couple of false assumptions. First he believes the polls. I can write a poll question that will guarantee everyone in AMerica wants us to stay and win in Iraq. He does point out that the MSM is complicit in all things the socialists want, such as Bush being popular or not. Do you care if he is popular or if you even like him as long as he does the job? The Presidents job is not to be popular.

I am from another time it seems, I can remember the truth of what happened in the past, and what is presented in history today is not reality. There is a saying, “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.” and that is what you are seeing in AMerica today, when the socialists make incremental increases in the control of your life and freedoms today, they say what goes in the history books, they control the past, at least today they do. If we do not wake up AMerica to the socialist threat to our liberty we will soon serve them as our masters.

So as I said, it depends on what happens in the next 20 years, how harshly anyone will be judged. The democrats, not just the socialists but all democrats, are complicit in the crimes the socialists are prepetrating on AMerica. The democrats know their party has been hijacked yet they do nothing about it.

The election of 06 is an anomaly, the change was not about the war per se, it was about middle America not showing up. It is generally accepted that the next election will be different due to it being a WH election, that middle America will show up. It is my belief that the socialists will once again be in the minority and there will be a "conservative" in the WH for the next eight years. I can only hope that if there are any decent people left in congress that this will serve as a wake up call, to get their house in order, as it is today congress is a total disaster.

The democrats with the aide of the socialists held the power in this country for almost 50 years. Yesterday a sheriff was commenting to me about a shooting and wondering how things got so bad. I told him, 50 years of socialist influence in congress. People put way too much importance on who is the President, sure there are important things as a result of that, but seldom in history has a President had a long term effect on our country, maybe FDR led us towards communism, but that is about it, we get over Presidents pretty quickly.

What we do not recover from is Congress. For proof look at health care, education, perpetual welfare, pick any amendment after the 10th that has caused issues such as the 16th and 17th, and there is congress right there screwing up our country.

Ben Franklin said of congress, "They are of the People, and return again to mix with the People, having no more durable preeminence than the different Grains of Sand in an Hourglass. Such an Assembly cannot easily become dangerous to Liberty. They are the Servants of the People, sent together to do the People's Business, and promote the public Welfare; their Powers must be sufficient, or their Duties cannot be performed. They have no profitable Appointments, but a mere Payment of daily Wages, such as are scarcely equivalent to their Expences; so that, having no Chance for great Places, and enormous Salaries or Pensions, as in some Countries, there is no triguing or bribing for Elections"

Until we are able to get back to what Congress was intended to be we will continue to have problems, because Congress is the problem.

Answer 2

How do you even pretend to know what history will say in the future? How dare you suggest you have any idea what it will say? And how can you suggest you know what the Supreme Court will decide? When you use the term "old geezer" (and I am one by the way) you are engaging in the same sort of logic as anyone else who uses labels to describe people. Marriage, by definition, is between two people of different sexes. The Supreme Court could rule something different, but that will not change the definition, only a perception. If states agree to allow civil unions then homosexuals can get together and call it anything they want. No law can prevent that. Hell, if she'd have me I could marry my dog. So what? But it still wouldn't be a marriage. As far as civilization is concerned, it's been going to hell in a handbasket for a couple of millenia already anyway.

Answer 3

History will judge harshly the people who wanted to go into Iraq in the first place. Terrorists attacks have increased since we invaded Iraq and even the Iraqi people want us out. Bush used our outrage about 9/11 to initiate a war on the wrong country. We're just lucky the idiot didn't think Hawaii was a separate country and invade them instead.

Answer 4

History will judge the invasion of Iraq very harshly. The people who are now advocating withdrawal will be seen as finally seeing the light. Also, Senator Lugar, for instance, was just reelected, so his position is not based on election worries.

Answer 5

Is there any condemnation for those anti-war types in the media? 100 years from now, if someone reads about the Iraq war, all they are going to read is that it was an unjust war conducted by an evil president. Textbooks written by libs will say something like "the moral of the story is, you should never let those evil conservatives take us to war."

Answer 6

Yes. History has done it to those against WWI, and WWII. Our part in those wars was absolutely necessary, or we'd all be speaking German, and Japanese, and Italian, and controlled, and poor, and starving.
The war in Iraq and Afghanistan, are the same in necessity. If we don't fight it, we end up controlled, and ruled by some guy name Mohammad Al- Jaherezad, and our children will become a religion we, nor our families believe, because of fear of death. That is the only weapon a terrorist has, to kill us. America is better, stronger than that! If our forefathers and their families feared death so much, we wouldn't be America, would we? We would be a controlled land by the English. Used and abused.

Answer 7

History will look at this war as a travesty. This is the first time that the U.S. used a preemptive strike against a country that did not threaten us. The heroes will be those that realized that we need to get out. We have unstabilized the whole region and will pay dearly for our foolishness in the coming years. We can only hope that calmer heads prevail and we use diplomacy to straighten out the mess.

Answer 8

I think it will more harshley judge those who supported the war. The attack has placed Iraq in a situation where, no matter what we do, there will be civil war. The best bet is to pull out our uni-lateral forces and beg the UN to go in and clean up the mess (they might, of course, demand that we keep peacekeepers there, but that is a different story.)

Answer 9

Most people want to pull out of Iraq. The numbers are only increasing as time goes on. History will judge those who keep our troops there harshly.

Answer 10

If I could predict the future I would go out and buy lotto tickets instead of playing on Y!A. Either way, we're going to leave a base behind stocked with troops.