I recently heard this being discussed on the radio but didnt have time to listen to it all.
2007-07-16
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so far there has been no legitimate answer to why he should be impeached. Your innoccent until proven guilty. You may ask , What do you believe. Wouldn't you like to know. I support the our president but I may not support all his decisions and ideas.
2007-07-17
00:46:46 ·
update #1
this is in response to blueridgeliving
1. He didnt seize power. He was voted into office. Congress gave him permission to go to war. Saddam consistently carried out political campaigns that called all Americans the enemy. And duh, its a war. People do get hurt and die and...most of the Iraqi casualties are caused by other Iraqis. 2. He did provide info on so called wmd's but congress are the ones that approved. and wmds doesnt have to be nuclear weapons. 3. Have you been to Iraq. A bad guy is willing to dress as a woman and even tell their wives and children to engage in insurgent activity. Watch the news and count how many times they blow up there own people with car bombs. The lot of them are at markets or businesses.Again, majority of Iraqi casualties are by Iraqis. 4. it wasnt a secret and it was approved. Wire tapping has been going on for years.5. The Iraqi people had no independence before we got there. It was a dictatorship. People were killed because of their religion.
2007-07-17
06:30:19 ·
update #2
6. what assassinations? who was tortured? how do you get info from a detainee or POW? Have you ever questioned someone who hates you because of your religion or becuase they believe its their divine right to kill you? Pyshological coercion such as...good cop, bad cop? Becuase everybody does that.7. you said this already in #2 except you just explain it this time. It is your best reason though but...what propaganda did he make. Information held is info used to protect our personnel abroad. See what happend with Geraldo. 8. Afghanistan the homeland of the prime benefactors of Al Quieda. The country that thanks to us fought off an invading U.S.S.R. but turned around to use what ever aid we gave them, against us. The country is just now exercising equal rights thanks to us disbanding the Taliban. Women can now recieve eduacation. Any business done on the outside limits of a treaty are given amendments. that is outside your payscale. We have rebuilt a lot of Iraq but rebuilding...
2007-07-17
06:57:56 ·
update #3
...takes time. Its hard to rebuild a market when they keep blowing it up.There was also a lot of farmland destroyed by Husseins reqime.9.nobody has been stripped of their constitutional or human rights. Unless you have broken the law. If you havent broken the law and your rights have been stripped get a lawyer. And all they need is suspicion to hold you for a set amount of time.10. repeating yourself again. Non-citizens dont have all the same rights as the United States citizen.11.INS jurisdiction is under government jurisdiction.13.Thats for the safety of the detained and so people dont go around trying to do something stupid like bust them out.14. who?what?when?where?15nothing new there.16your susposed seize that stuff to for investigations.17Last I heard he sent aid there. Most the casualties were people who tried to ride it out despite the warnings put out by the national weather service. When aid is needed the president doesnt automatically know. He isnt telepathic....
2007-07-17
07:16:03 ·
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getting aid start at the lowest level. The emergency response of the cities or towns(ems, police) get calls. They report to their supervisors. They report it to the mayors. Mayors report to the governors. Governors call the national gaurd if they can and then they call federal agencies.18.Well, when you go fishing you dont go to the top of a tree you go the lake. Ask any cop how they catch most people commiting crimes. They profile. Its the easiest and most effective way. No, it doesnt alway work. Thats when you use a harder method.19Again, like what. Most info held is becuase you dont want it leaking out to the public. Its sensitive info even when doesnt look like it.20.We are providing more aid to other countries than any other country. We intervene in places where there is famine and genocide and places that obviously needs help becuase they cant help themselves.
2007-07-17
07:27:42 ·
update #5
oh, thats right, it was an american dressed as an iraqi that blew up a town square with a car bomb. A town square that held no military significance and a bomb that killed over 80 iraqis. men women and children. Take a flight there and see for yourself. I ve been there myself I saw plenty of Iraqis killing other Iraqis because they werent shiite or they werent kurdish or they didnt pay the toll for protection. Fact is 3/4 of the casualties there are caused by Iraqis. If you come up with a real valid reason then great but if not I still value your opinion. In WW2 the atomic bomb killed a lot of innoccent japenese. Did that president get impeached? Would tha
2007-07-17
07:38:22 ·
update #6
Of course he will be impeached. America is a nation of laws.
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President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfield and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts:
1) Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of hundereds of thousands of Iraqis, and thousands of U.S. G.I.s.
2) Lying to the people of the U.S., to Congress, and to the U.N., providing false and deceptive rationales for war.
3) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties were unavoidable.
4) Instituting a secret and illegal wiretapping and spying operation against the people of the United States through the National Security Agency.
5) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently changing its government by force and assaulting Iraq in a war of aggression.
6) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnaping, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions on governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
7) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks.
8) Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community.
9) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering indefinite detention of citizens, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant."
10) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense.
11) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government.
12) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief.
13) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry.
14) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials.
15) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime.
16) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist."
17) Engaging in criminal neglect in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, depriving thousands of people in Louisiana, Mississippi and other Gulf States of urgently needed support, causing mass suffering and unnecessary loss of life.
18) Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity.
19) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions.
2007-07-17 01:21:45
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answered by Anonymous
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I think that this is perhaps even sadder and more tragic than the whole Iraq quagmire.
That Americans are living daily in denial about bush's criminality.
If people could just rise above their partisanship for five minutes, just five measly minutes, and actually face what bush has done, we could convict this lawless man and get back to the stature which America used to enjoy.
There is absolutely no question whatsoever that bush should be impeached. There are numerous reasons, let's start with the Patriot Act.
Any American who has not yet READ the Patriot Act does not deserve to CALL themselves an "American."
This piece of shoved-through, UNREAD BY CONGRESS, legislation is the positive un-doing of the Constitution.
Which bush SWORE an OATH to uphold.
THERE is your "grounds for impeachment" right there.
I beg of you - read the filthy, vile thing.
You will run screaming into the street!
2007-07-17 01:46:57
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe he must be impeached because we cannot allow presidents to do the things he has done and get away with it.
One the best reasons to impeach him is his claim to eliminate habeas corpus. Although he has only imprisoned a few US citizens under his claimed right to indefinitely detain someone without trial, lawyers or notification, future presidents may detain thousands and thus destroy this fragile democracy.
Update: I just read your response to the post explaining how Bush broke the FISA law. Your response was insufficient. Bush has admitted to spying on US citizens without getting a warrant which is a clear violation of the FISA law. It has nothing to do with the degree of secrecy or if such illegal actions have been done in the past. To repeat another reason: the Supreme Court ruling that he violated the constitution in his kangaroo courts for Guantanamo detainees. What other criteria can we agree to than a violation of the constitution found by the Supreme Court? Where is your conservative sense of rule by law and order?
Update2: the questioner said that 'no one's rights have been violated'. This is wrong. Read the legal briefs that the presidents lawyers gave on the Hamdi case and others. They all assert the power to indefinitely detain US citizens without trial, representation or notification. Read the Supreme Court verdict on the Gaunamano trials that said the President violated the constitution. The Supreme Court ruling on the Geneva convention and how the president violated the constitution on that.
Still nothing on the FISA violation. Nothing on the other issues. Just vague, uninformed opinions. And the answerer below? In what manner of violation of law can he not understand, I wonder? What a bizarre response.
2007-07-16 23:00:15
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answered by Anonymous
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I quite doubt it. It turns out like they're all spoiled. If they went to paintings in a min salary location wherein simply your each day charges take a toll, then possibly they might apprieciate that our enemy is inflicting the present residing quandary to harm. That and so they might be to busy operating- and now not sitting on there butt -to have time to protest whatever they don't seem to be going to difference. Hmm possibly then they might admire America beacuse the one amusing they might quite get to have is on the 4th Of July events. =)
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answered by snachez 3
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i am astouded by some of these answers. sure, you can blame a few crazy posts on the paid blogger/trolls, but not all of these. sounds like a professional defense jury. do the local lawyers all have your numbers? people say don't impeach him because he only has a year left. what kind of year could that be?
people, you do not refuse to indict a criminal because he's almost finished breaking the law. thankfully there is a growing movement to impeach, by republicans as well as dems.
2007-07-16 23:25:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Definitely not, because then the President would be Cheney. Bush is just a meat puppet for the Cheney/Rice junta, and whatever crimes have been commited are the doing of someone else. Bush's only functions in this Administration are to sign documents and raise funds for the Republican party.......he's actually the Campaigner in Chief, using weapons of mass deception.
2007-07-16 22:54:48
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answered by Anonymous
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Listen if Bush has actually done anything to warrant being impeached then it is the duty of congress to carry that out.
Congress has not done that, which means:
1) He has stretched laws, but broken none.
2) They are negligent in their duties and should be outed or put in jail themselves.
You decide.
2007-07-16 23:33:45
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answered by bigdaddy33 4
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he should not be impeached he should be sent to the hague for war crimes. over a million iraqis have died, 33,000 plus US soldiers are injured and i know for a fact they are lying about the number of dead US soldiers.
why should he be sent to the hague: there are thousands of reasons besides the number of deaths he has caused but the main one that sticks out is the illegal invasion of a sovereign head of state country.
2007-07-16 23:19:15
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answered by Anonymous
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I am Totally Shocked by the number of mis-informed, emptyheaded bozos allowed to roam free..It is OBVIOUS they have been Heavily SEDATED by the Hypnotic Like WAVES , of TOTAL Propaganda, Waifing into The Weak Minded now under Their CONTROL. HEY !! WAKE Up.. SNAP OUT Of IT !! TWO RIGGED ELECTIONS ! OVER-SEEN By The ILLUMINATI, The NEW WORLD ORDER, by The ZIONIST Control of the PNAC... the MAJORITY of US Mass MEDIA OWNED & CONTROLLED by ZIONIST JEWS !! http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html Cheney FALSIFIED Libby/Wilson Niger Nuke Components going toSadaam/IRAQ IntelligenceREPORTS. CHENEY MADE-Up, MANUFACTURED FALSE Info. and put These LIES into Bushs 2003 SOT Union msg.. ALL LIES to INVADE and OCCUPY TWO Countries to CONTROLL ALL their Oil FIELDS.. HELLO PEOPLE !! Wake Up ! Bush Sr. spoke from Senate Floor (SEPT 11, 1991) Announcing NewWorldOrder !! grandDad , PRESCOTT next to HITLER in 1934 giving SAME NWO IdeologySpeech , Prescott GAVE FINANCIAL Aid, National and Military SECRETS to HITLER.. HELLLO PEOPLE ANSWER The Fuggggen DOOR !! WAKE T F UP !!! http://www.911stuff.com/play-4411-Illuminati_9_11.html
2007-07-17 01:16:22
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answered by Anonymous
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he is not of the wall like the other guy before him BILL.C
he just does not know when to quit.
9-11 was a tragedy and the world reacted to violence with violence but there is a time when you need to start to mend the fence and come to the peace table with all your enemy's.
2007-07-16 23:29:06
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answered by rocccj 2
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HOW MANY TIMES TO WE HAVE TO ANSWER THE EXACT SAME QUESTION HERE....WHERES THE CRIME...?
use the clinton benchmark for impeachable behavior and you will see the point.
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
well, maybe you wont but most WORKING sober americans will.
2007-07-16 23:34:05
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answered by koalatcomics 7
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