The following is a list of pardons by President Clinton do you still want to complain about libby?

Question

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

For that matter what crime did Libby actually commit ?

Also what was Sandy Burger sentence for stealing documents oh wait thats right he got away with it

Answer 1

I do not but liberals do. Remember, 1 is greater that 100 or more when the 1 is a Republican

Answer 2

Whether the commutation of Libby's prison sentence was right or wrong isn't the point. Libs just don't get that.
I for one think Libby shouldn't have even been tried or convicted of anything. He was never charged with anything. Isn't it the libs who are crying and screaming about the prisoners in GITMO? Crying that you can't hold these people without charging them with anything?
So how can you send a man to prison without formerly charging him with something?
Lying under oath? Obstruction of Justice? Did not Mr. Clinton do that very thing? Yes he went through impeachment proceedings but it was all dropped later. The worse thing that happened to Clinton out of all of that was he was disbarred. Oh boo hoo. Like his plan was to begin practicing law? Whatever! Clinton was a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES people. Libby was an assistant to the VP.
BIGGGGG difference.

Libs bytch when it's not theirs doing the commuting. Yet when their's do all of these things, hardly a word is spoken.

When Foley was outed about his behavior. He knew we conservatives would NOT stand for it, and he resigned. When a lib does those things though. He is congratulated and re-elected many times over.

Makes a lot of sense huh?

Answer 3

One more time Libby was not pardoned, only his jail sentence was commuted.

Clinton was smart in pardoning 111 people during the last weeks in office, we all were so busy waiting the election results that no body noticed the free tickets to people who even admitted to commit treason.

Answer 4

I think that commuting Libby's sentence was a stupid thing to do. However, the same Democrats who were all pissed off over the commutation had no problem with Clinton pardoning drug dealers and federal fugitives in exchage for donations to his library.

There, I said it. I THINK LIBBY SHOULD BE IN JAIL. I also think that Clinton, and the Democrats in Congress complaining about the Libby commutation are HYPOCRITES.

Answer 5

TG...the problem with your line of thinking is that Libby DID NOT OUT PLAME! He was convicted through a witch hunt. He basically lied, after hours of interrogation, about details in a crime he did not commit, and they convicted him of lying. The reality is that he should have NEVER been put in that position.

It is like having a burglery in your area where you were suspected, and they asked you where you were, and you said you were home, but the truth came out you were at a movie. Then they convicted you of lying about where you were. It is insane.


Hairy cookie...yes, Clinton got impeached, but he also did no time.

Answer 6

No complaints. He was not pardoned...just his sentence commuted.

No person was ever charged on the outing of Valerie Plame. Thus, Libby was convicted on perjury and obstruction in case that did not have an underlying crime. He was found guilty of making false statements to the FBI and a grand jury regarding lies – not leaking secrets. The original leak came from former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, who was never charged – because a crime was never established. I’m not defending any leader who lied to the FBI. However, Libby did pay $250,000 in fines for his lies.

It seems to me that the case never had anything to do with seeking justice. It was simply another political power play targeted at weakening the Bush administration in difficult times.

Answer 7

Although I agree with you, and understand the point your getting at. But if Clinton is always and forever going to be brought into the firing line. Let's go through all past Presidents records to make this a really fair argument.

Answer 8

I'm a Republican. I have to say that, because Neo -COns hate me.

I complained alot of how Clinton Pardon A Hisidic Jew to help Hillary get votes in New York.
But we can't neglect seeing wrongs from our own party. We need to keep up the appearance of doing the right thing. Commuting is wrong. Libby needs to do time.

I talked to alot of the older generation and found them admirable and horrified that the Republicans are starting act like Democrats. A crime is a crime. When Nixon broke our laws, THe Republican did not whine like those for Clinton. We still claim Nixon as being a good President that deserve to be impeached.

Answer 9

Actually, Libby was one of the lawyers who represented a man who received pardon from Clinton. Libby helped people get that Clinton pardon.

Libby was found guilty of perjury. Clinton also got perjury.

Libby got his sentence commuted. Clinton got impeached.

Clinton pardons were controversial, but he did it by the law through justice department.

Bush commutation was 'extraordinary', he by passed justice department and gave no heads up to judge, Libby's lawyer or prosecution. Surprised everybody.

Also, Libby's judge have questioned legality of Bush's commutation and there may be more inquiry into the matter.

Hypocrisies are just everywhere in this matter. But Bush bypassed usual process of going through justice department. Clinton's pardons were controversial, but he did it by the book.

This web of hypocrisy is so freaking weird I don't know what to say about it.

NOW, Who wants to count signing statements? Bush or Clinton? Who did it most?

Answer 10

Memnoch...while I agree that two wrongs don't make a right...where was the liberal outrage when Clinton committed his wrongs? You know the same liberal outrage that was all over TV, radio, and newspapers when Bush pardoned Libby. Why is Bush so evil for doing the same thing Slick Willie did? Why is it OK for Clinton to do something that is outright wrong (take your pick from the many immoral things he did) yet when Bush does something that is questionable liberals treat him like he's the Anti-Christ?

Answer 11

Yes, I do still want to complain about Libby. Scooter Libby's crimes may well have been committed AT THE BEHEST OF THE VICE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE. Therefore, Bush commuting his sentence--before the appeals process was even begun--can be seen not just as a "pardon" of sorts, but as obstruction of justice, as a cover-up for crimes committed in his own VP's office. That is the difference.

Oh, and then there's his earlier quote about how he planned to vehemently go after ANYONE in his office found to have leaked Valerie Plame's name/information. Way to enforce consequences on that one, Mr. President.