How ironic is it that liberal solutions have a tendency to do the opposite of the intentions?

Question

Specifically, I refer to this one situation. Liberals advocate big government and regulation and taxes. With high employee taxes, it increases the overhead of businesses. The more costs to just be open makes it harder to make it as a small business.

Yet, liberals are generally against big corporations that operate internationally, yet they are the ones that can absorb large overhead.

Having so many taxes on wages, and other costs for being open makes it harder and harder for the small guy to make it. Yet liberals are making it so big corporations are the only ones who can make it. A single shop owner can only make it so far with resources. You can really see this with malls in heavily blue states like NY and CT. The small shops cannot afford the mall rents nor the overhead to make it.

How ironic?

BTW, there are liberals in the Republican party who behave the same way. Liberal is not unique to Democrats here.

grumpyoldman misses the biggest part of the big government scam: when government raises costs on business via taxes or regulations, they simply raise their prices. Businesses do not pay taxes, we all do. Their costs go up, so do prices.

Answer 1

Right you are. I'm not apposed to big business because capitalism is the way to go. I am apposed to monopolies because small business can't compete nor survive against them. That being said, I own a business and have for many years. In fact, I'm at work now doing paperwork and getting ready to head home.

The government is making things tougher and tougher. The volumes of tax forms, paperwork, taxes, etc. is unbelievable. If I had to do it all over again, I'm not so certain that I would because it would be so much easier just to work for someone else. But now I'm stuck and I have employees who depend on me for security and wages.

Answer 2

Have you been looking at the government over the past 8 YEARS? The Republican administration has created BIG Government.

Funny during the Clinton Administration that he was so popular the Republican-led Congress helped Clinton balance the budget so they can try to win the election in 2000.

Guess what? Taxes WILL be raised with the next Democratic President in 2008. Know why? Because bush decided to waste the budget by giving the money back to upper Middle-Class and the wealthy. Then he decided to WASTE approximately 12 Billion Dollars a month on a war in Iraq that wasn't needed. This is the problem with Republican Presidents over the past twenty-someodd years - they give more money to the wealthy and big corporations, and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves. Then Clinton had to clean up the mess reagan and bush made. Now the even more incompetent bush has put the economy in a bind again.

That is not ironic, it's sad...

Answer 3

In my 55 years of life, I have lived through several administrations. The tax increases for the normal worker has not been much at all under Democratic presidents and the tax cuts of Republican administrations have been almost nothing to the normal working class. Most tax hikes do not affect most workers as much as it does corporations. Most tax cuts help only a small percent of the workers and those are the ones that need it least. Reagan's cuts to corporations were supposed to create jobs, yet the unemployment rate in the middle of his years was10.4 %, the highest in modern history. And no he didn't inherit that high number from Carter. And by the time he left office it was almost the same as when he took office. I don't believe that raising taxes on the rich and the big corporations drive the little guy out of business. Giants like Walmart can demand such lower prices from vendors by buying in huge quantites that they can simply under sell the competition and still make profits. Giving them tax breaks just drive up their profit and help them eliminate competition.

Answer 4

over taxing only serves to increase unemployment. if you think about it, it's the perfect situation for a liberal. you raise taxes and minimum wage. large corporations realize that expenses will increase substantially. large industry begins to downsize/lay off. unemployment goes up, small business can't compete and go out of business. liberals rejoice as they are unable to find a job and now can stay home and collect unemployment and blame the economic down turn on the previous administration. the recently raised taxes now go to the sustaining of the unemployed. A liberal Nirvana.

Answer 5

I also wonder if people realize that about 98% of all businesses in America are small businesses, that is have less than 500 employees.

I wish people understood how anti-business Democrats are.

BTW, last year my son was in a Soc Studies class, where class members were given a questionaire about their political beliefs and personal values. They found out, most to their horror, that 80% would align much more with the Republican party. It is sooooo unpopular to be Republican - and so smart!

Answer 6

Probably more ironic is
1. Clinton's tax increases produced the longest growth spurt in the history of this country while both Reagan and Bush ushered in recessions by ignoring the real problems of the economy and just saying "tax cuts will fix it"
2. Bush and Reagan both claimed that deficit funded Keynsian growth was somehow related to the tax cuts despite being almost exclusively limited to industry sectors that benefited from increased government spending and occuring in the absence of increased savings and greenfield investment.
3. Tax and spend Clinton ran a smaller budget in real terms that either of the small government champions.
4. Amateur supply side economists like this think they actually know something about economics and so love to post these statements that only show how ignorant they are.

Answer 7

Well, you're missing he whole point. If there's no one in need of government assistance then we don't need Liberals. That's why Liberal policies only pretend to present solutions. The last thing they can afford is something that actually worked then they'd become un-necessary.

Answer 8

This so-called liberal fully supports taxing the big corporations more than the little businesses. So you can go home now.

Answer 9

You are correct Walmart is the answer for the small business man in this country. Just go through any small town in the midwest and see how wonderfully your international corporation has helped all of the small business's in these towns. Oops I forgot there are no small business's in these towns anymore.

Answer 10

Yes, it is ironic.

But the practices you mention are common to most politicians. Of all parties and political philosophies.

They make decisions and pass regulations that end up being contradictory and that end up being counter-productive to their stated goals.

That's just political stupidity, which sadly is another thing not limited to any one party or political ideology.