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I found out a few months ago that my ex-wife has my daughter on health insurance thru the state of Ohio. Also my child and her 2 other kids thru her current marriage are getting free/reduced lunches and she is getting food stamps. She also took me back to pay more child support (about $400 a month) so she can stop working full time to work part time causing her to make minimum wage. She stated to the CSA that she wanted to spend more time with the kids. She received over $100,000 (after taxes) when her mother passed away. I spoke when various lawyers and they have told me that an inheiritance does not count toward income, so why is she able to get all the government assistance? I pay 85% of the support for my child but is unable to claim her on my taxes every other year because she won't agree to it. I feel like the CSA is putting me thru the ringer because she is on government assistance while she gets over on everybody else. I'm sure if I got alot of money, CSA would be all over me.

2007-07-16 15:01:42 · 7 answers · asked by baseball fan 1 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

Just to clear things up, I am not complaining about paying child support. Just that a person who has almost $100,000, has a house that is paid off, leasing 2 or 3 new vehicles about once a year, quit workin full time voluntarily is getting food stamps/government assistance/etc. And somebody said that I am claiming my daughter on my taxes every other year????? I am not claiming my child ANY year. And Yvette, u say that there are alot of people without insurance, etc. You are right, but I am quite well sure their mothers don't have a house paid for and over $100,000 to their name. Seems like to me their are a lot of others kids that could use that assistance. Child support goes both ways. I drive over 600 miles a month for one weekend with my child, been doing it for 10 years. Anyone who wants to "read" into anything w/o knowing the whole story and start assuming that I'm a bad father can go to straight ti hell.

2007-07-16 17:47:50 · update #1

7 answers

Inheritance does count towards income and resources and she will have to spend the money down, in an appropriate amount of time, before she qualifies for assistance as that puts her over the resource guidelines! Same thing for food stamps, unless she is lying to someone!

Call the state and report her. They have Special Investigation units! Welfare (there is no such thing anymore) fraud is a felony! How long ago did she get the $100,000? Twenty years?

Be careful that you have the facts before you start throwing around allegations.

I can't live on $400.00 a month.

Usually there are 2 sides to a story and the information does not add up! I am feeling something is being left out.

Most people making about minimum wage can't
pay child daycare and work full-time as their daycare for 3 children is more than her salary would be! She probably qualifies for a subsidy!

Men quit their jobs all the time so they don't have to pay child support, Many work under the table and don't pay child support or taxes!

And it is true, that many women use the system as well! But not like corporate America does, or even anywhere close.

If I had 3 kids I would do what I had to do to provide my kids a roof, food and clothes! And 1/2 off all working families earn between $10,000 and $25,000 a year. That is 67 Million out of 132 million that filed taxes! The "Average" taxpayer makes $44,000 a year and that puts them in the top 50% and taxes take a considerable chunk out of their income!

It is called TANIF now as it is Temporary aid. You can't draw it forever, or even till the child turns 7 if she applied when a baby was born.

The resource limit is $1,000!

"FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS



Financial requirements are broken into two components: income and resources. You are considered financially eligible for TANF if both income and resource requirements are met.



Household Income All available income for all members of your household is counted when we determine your eligibility for TANF. However, we subtract certain expenses from that total. If, after subtracting your expenses, your total net income equals or falls below the monthly net income limits for the number of people in your household, you are considered income eligible.

Household Resources All resources which you and your family own are considered to determine eligibility. Examples of resources are cash, bank accounts, stocks, bonds, permanently unoccupied real estate and some trusts. We do not count certain resources such as the home you are living in, your furniture and one vehicle for each adult in the home.

If, after counting or excluding your household's resources, your total countable resources equal or fall below $1,000, you are considered resource eligible."

For a family of 4, $618.00 a month disqulifies them form aid. That wouldn't even get you an apartment!

CASH PROGRAMS AND EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE
Family
Size
TANF/UP Max. Income
(Limit is lower for those
with shelter expenses of
less than $318)
OAA, APTD, ANB in an
Independent living
arrangement
OAA, APTD, ANB in a
Residential Care Facility
OAA, APTD, ANB in a
Community Residence
1 $489 $617
2 $556 $905
3 $625

This is her limit!
4 $688

You can take a look at these if yoty wane!

Code of Federal Regulations: Title 7, Agriculture, Chapter II, Food and Nutrition Service, Part 210-299



Code of Federal Regulations: Title 45, Public Welfare, Chapter II, Office of Family Assistance, Administration of Children and Families, US DHHS, Part 200-299



Code of Federal Regulations: Title 42, Public Health, Chapter IV, Centers for Medicare Medicaid Services, US DHHS, Part 430-499



US Code: Title 42, Public Health and Welfare, Chapter 7, Social Security Act, Subchapter I, Grants to States for Old Age Assistance, Part 301 et seq.



US Code: Title 42, Public Health and Welfare, Chapter 7, Social Security Act, Subchapter X, Grants to States for Aid to Blind, Part 1201 et seq.



US Code: Title 42, Public Health and Welfare, Chapter 7, Social Security Act, Subchapter XIV, Grants to States for Aid to Permanent and Totally Disabled, Part 1351 et seq.



US Code: Title 42, Public Health and Welfare, Chapter 7, Social Security Act, Subchapter XIX, Grants to States for Medical Assistance Programs, Part 1382 et seq.



US Code: Title 42, Public Health and Welfare, Chapter 7, Social Security Act, Subchapter XXI, State Children's Health Insurance Program, Part 1397 aa et seq.

2007-07-16 15:36:09 · answer #1 · answered by cantcu 7 · 0 0

An inheritance DOESN'T count towards income....it's not income. It's a one-time dealie.

However, once welfare finds out, she will have to repay all of the public, government assistance she has received out of her inheritance. That is the way things work. Welfare is a helping hand....and if the recipient comes in to a windfall (like a winning a lottery or - inheriting money), the welfare folks will send her a bill so she can repay the taxpayers for helping her out.

Now, if you happened to put a bug in the ear of the welfare department, it might happen sooner rather than later.

Revenge can be sweet!!!!!

2007-07-16 15:37:11 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

you contacted various attorneys and yet, you still dont believe it....

1) YOUR child on state health insurance; you should be greatful, 45 million Americans dont have it. It SAVES you money, for you would be paying at least 1/2 of all medical bills, scripts, testing, etc.

2) medical insurance is NOT government assistance. In many states, its a right, to all of their citizens; YUP, their ALL covered.

3) Food Stamps; most people who recieve food stamps are hard working people with full time jobs... they qualify.. did you know that?

4) Free Lunches; you would think you would be greatful your child recieves a hot lunch... you pack your lunch every day, right?

5) Claiming the child on taxes every year; you claim her every other year, cant be happy with that?

6) CSA is not putting you through a ringer. it may feel that way, but the bottom line is:

--there are no "fathers rights" in child support
--there are no "mothers rights" in child support
--there are ONLY the childs rights.

and there are 2 kinds of parents;

--those who love and take interest in their child(rens) lives.
--those who view their children as a burden & chore.

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i get your point, and i admire any father who goes to such lengths to insure a relationship with their child.

i understand you are frustrated with 'how easy' she has it. bottom line is... your child(ren) benefit from her not having a mortgage (if she hasnt taken a note out against it yet).

they wouldnt qualify for 'free or reduced lunches, and or food stamps' if they were that well off, believe me.

again, its too your childs benefit.. all of it, including your relationship with them.

well done.

ps-i'm not go'n anywhere, the 'warm' place is reserved for the self serving.

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wheres the money going?

you pay what? 400? 600? 900?

ok, lets see...
-rent; 1000
-electric 300-500
-food 400-600
-diapers 75-150 per month (fluctuates when baby is sick or teething)
-formula 200
-heat 300-400
-phone/cable 100
-water bill 50
-sewer bill 50
-auto; (for doctors, dentists, take to school when they miss the bus, pick up when sick, pick up medicines, get food, take to activities) 200
-sports TONS spent on activies, varies.
-clothing/shoes/boots 200-400 every 2 to 3 months
(seasonal and they grow)

that doesnt even include toys, birthdays, dental, doctors, glasses, daycare, activities, hair cuts, school supplies, school lunches, school projects, class trips, class pictures, over the counter medicines, prescriptions, laundry det, dish det, cleaners, soap, shampoo, toothpaste, acne medicines, bras, pads, christmas, easter, halloween, tooth fairy, birthdays, etc. and sooo much more.


if you pay MORE then 51% of the child(rens) living expenses, then you CAN claim the child, without her consent. if she files also, the IRS will audit BOTH of you, and the one with reciepts wins.

TAX INFO
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p501/index.html
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p504/ar02.html#d0e563
http://www.taxsites.com/index.htm
http://www.divorceinfo.com/taxes.htm
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc354.html
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc422.html
http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq4-5.html
http://www.irs.gov/localcontacts/index.html
http://www.irs.gov/advocate/index.html
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p525/index.html
http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/offsets_childsupport.html
http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/14/pf/taxes/do_not_miss_tax_breaks/index.htm?postversion=2007021411




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2007-07-16 17:08:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I know it's true that even when she reports the inheritance to the caseworker, it's not counted toward her income and her case is unaffected by it. Her case is only affected by consistent income (such as that provided from a job or Social Security.) So tell on her all you want, anonymously, and that isn't going to help you or your child. What you need to do is take part in your child's life more and then you won't resent payments so much, and you'll see how much you really are paying. Maybe the ex will even get off welfare coz she will be less upset with you, less vengeful. Reading between the lines, honey?

2007-07-16 15:20:51 · answer #4 · answered by all_stardusty 4 · 0 2

You need to check with IRS, you pay that much, you are entitled to claim something. As for as that money she inherited from her mother, if she failed to report that to the state agencies where she gets her food stamps etc.. she can be in trouble. Also, if she failed to report this, and did not put in on the reduced lunch program, she can be in trouble there also. It may not count against income, but failure to report she has this money to the state and school lunch program is a total different story.

2007-07-16 15:13:50 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Without reading the whole story...yes it's legal..as long as the courts say you have to pay...but you could probably go back to court and ask for a change because her circumstances have changed.
But if she has all that cash from inheritance she has to report it to the welfare people...and being a substantial amount they would drop her case...and if she kept receiving aid and not report the income she could be charged with fraud.
Call in an anonymous tip.

2007-07-16 15:11:07 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

the inheritance isn't your money, and for all you know, she could be using that for the kids education.

its hard for a person to make ends meet, and just be thankful that she does meet requirements to get reduced/free lunches. Would you want your kids to starve!!!!!!

$400 a month is not alot of money!!!!! my dead beat dad paid $85 for 2 kids everymonth!!! Thank God the laws changed!!!!!

Stop thinking of yourself, and be lucky that she has only 1 kid with you!! you are selfish!!!!

Your child deserves the best, and she is doing her best to provide it.

do you think of rent, utilities, food, gas for the car, extra curricular activities, all the other stuff she pays for and all you got to pay is $400 a month!!!!!

IF the child doesnt live with you 9 months out of the yr, you can't claim her, no matter how much money you send the mother!!!

2007-07-16 15:08:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 5

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