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people who think for, for any reason at all, that homosexuality is unnatural and morally wrong, are demonized and labeled as homophobes, bigots, and every other name in the book? If they want to be accepted for who they are and not have people try to change the way they are then why can't they do the same for others?

2007-07-16 14:12:03 · 27 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

DC - Not at all true! In our more passionate days my fiance and I used to make out in public and I have lost count of how many people gave us dirty looks or said some smartarse remark like "get a room".

2007-07-16 15:26:50 · update #1

Zikirur- The very fact that you are even able to say things like what you're saying to me in a public forum like this proves that you gays aren't half the victims that you think you are. Not that you weren't at one time, but now people think it's O.K. to demonize anyone who boldly speaks up against homosexuality for any reason without candy coating their speech.

2007-07-17 17:26:24 · update #2

Panda - No, I am NOT a homo.

2007-07-18 12:22:15 · update #3

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I have no problem if you don't like my lifestyle or me or my sexuality, because, quite frankly I could care less about yours. But when it turns into homophobic behaviour and hate related crimes...then I fight back. and fight back hard. Ok?

2007-07-16 14:16:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 8 2

Your a homo AWESOME!!!! My friends and cousin are too. I have nothing against any homosexual. I don't they are wrong or gross. Making out in public is gross but I think that about everyone I won't kiss my husband in public for the fact that it's gross to see people swapping spit. I think it's wrong that people are like "eww homo against the bible that's unnatural" and stuff like that. I'd like to slap those people. I say people should be more accepting of the world and how it is. After all animals are homosexuals as well. Lie the two lesbian horses I knew a long time ago. SO I say it's wrong for people to judge. Also I remembered I did a persuasive speech on homosexual marriages. Did you know 14 states allow cousin marriage (having children with your family makes for retardation and extra things) an yet only Hawaii and Massachusetts allow same sex marriage. It's grosser to marry your cousin than to marr your same sex.

2007-07-16 18:30:55 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

As a gay man, I can personally affirm that I have never tried to "force" anyone to accept or celebrate my "lifestyle."

You, as a heterosexual person, can greet your significant other publicly with a kiss. I, on the other hand, am expected to wait until I am "behind closed doors" otherwise I am "forcing my lifestyle" on anyone within sight.

I couldn't care less if you or society as a whole is happy about who I am or whom I love. That said; I will not tolerate being treated disrespectfully or as less than equal to those who happen to love a member of the opposite sex.

Basically, if you live your life and allow others to live theirs then this question becomes moot.

RE: AmericanPatriot82's response:

I was not referring to "making out" but simply a kiss in greeting. I personally feel that "make out sessions" should be kept private regardless of your orientation.

2007-07-16 14:53:57 · answer #3 · answered by DC 1 · 1 1

Because it is not okay to be a bigot, you troll. I don't see how it is unnatural or morally wrong, unless you are using the OT, or Koran as your guide. Therefore, I am assuming you are against the gays because of your fine "christian morals". Well, here's the thing, the bible isn't the law in America. Not everyone is christian, and some people are in fact gay. Sorry deal with it.

2007-07-17 04:09:00 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

I force nothing upon anyone. I never insist that anyone accept me. the people important to me...my family and friends...DO accept me. why? because they are open-minded. they don't believe in lies, assumptions and stereotypes. I live as anyone else does. I work full time. I pay my bills and taxes. I vote. I write my congressmen about injustice like anyone should. I'm in a committed, monogamous relationship. It just happens to be with someone of the same gender. I don't curse anyone. I don't condemn anyone to hell or call them a sinner for simply being who they are. I don't fight for laws that suppress, prevent or take away the rights of law-abiding citizens.

and I whole-heartedly concur with everything that DC said!

2007-07-16 16:09:23 · answer #5 · answered by redcatt63 6 · 0 0

We wouldn't have called you guys names if you hadn't started all the bigotry and hate speech towards us. I've met some people who disagreed with homosexuality, but they never insulted me for being gay, so I'm cool with them. The ones I can't stand are those who disagreed, but they kept on trying to convert us, give hate speech and condemn us.
And about forcing homosexual lifestyle, not everyone does that. I'm okay with people who disagreed. People have different opinions and these need to be respected.

2007-07-16 17:05:04 · answer #6 · answered by ndrihalim 2 · 1 0

rewrite: If you feel that homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality or being transgendered is immoral and offensive to you, then kindly refrain from throwing it in our faces at each and every turn. We're starting to think you're trying to force something on us, and as you see, nobody likes to be force fed anything.

For myself, I am not trying to force anything on anyone, the "moral" people have made is abundantly clear what they think of me, quite precisely and very explicitly too I must add. I have no agenda, other than to live my life out as I am, as peaceably as I can with everyone around me. And I am certain many LGBT's feel the same way too.

So as long as you don't remind me that you consider my very existance immoral, I won't compare any of you to certain people who wore black uniforms and gassed people around sixty five years ago. Do we have an agreement?

2007-07-16 14:33:54 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 3 1

Maybe because that way the message sounds stronger. They do not force anyone, they are just fighting for their rights, being a homophobe is not an insult but an adjective describing someone who is against homosexuals.

2007-07-16 14:16:57 · answer #8 · answered by Lola 4 · 3 1

I've never been forced to accept and celebrate anything.
Homosexuals need to be left alone. I don't know about anyone else, but as long as I'm not forced to join and/or watch whatever ANYONE does behind closed doors, I couldn't care less.

2007-07-16 14:22:04 · answer #9 · answered by zytlaly 4 · 1 0

They are not trying to force you to celebrate their life style only tolerate it.They are free to celebrate their life style as you are free to celebrate things that are important to you(like huntin and stuff). You can not speak for an others lifestyle. Just relax they are not trying to "change" you into a homo. Also homosexuality(or at least bisexuality) is pretty natural, it helps with bonding. Male rabbits do it, and so did ancient Greek warriors.

2007-07-16 14:18:48 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Well, lets see.

1. Force you? Force you? To CELEBRATE? What are you talking about? No one can FORCE you to accept or celebrate anything and you know it.

2. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle, so it would be particularly difficult for me to force you to celebrate something that doesn't exist. I am a left leaning liberal professional -- Christian (leftwing church) with a terminal degree. My partner is a left leaning professional -- Wiccan (Correllian Natavist Church). We share a hobby ( RPGS/sci-fi/fantasy ), community activities, and some charity work (including two years when we were in NYC when he volunteered to watch my parish's homeless shelter on Friday nights so the Anglican nun who normally watched it could have a night off -- even though he is by no stretch whatsoever Christian). We have been together going on 16 years. We rarely (a couple of times a year) go dancing. We do not drink. We enjoy good food, friends, and games. We entertain at our home weekly -- but all but two of our friends in that group are straight. The two that aren't I had always assumed were until last year.

So are all gays like us? No. I know Log Cabin Republicans, I know Stonewall Democrats, I know Christians, Jews, Wiccans, Buddhists, and yes, to the shock of many, Muslims that are gay. I know conservatives, liberals, libertarians, socialists, anarchists, and a-political persons who are gay. I know men whom you would know in an instant, and men you would never know. I know people who go dancing every week and people who have never had a relationship longer than 2 weeks. I also know at least 2 gay couples that have celebrated more than 45 years together.

Lifestyle? Hardly. Life is more accurate. One is gay, what one does with it -- that is up to the person, but the being -- that isn't.

The excuse of morality as an explanation for prejudice is neither new, nor fresh. It has been used since the earliest agricultural settlements in Sumeria to justify hatred, rapine, torture and murder. Within given cultures it is used to justify dominance crimes and power positioning by individuals. Between cultures it is used as an excuse for things up to and including eugenics and genocide.

You have a right to use whatever arguments you choose, for whatever reasons you choose. However, you do not have a right to harm people. You do not have a right to make children hate themselves -- oh, you may deny this -- but kids have no choice over what their preference is, and you -- in your heart, deep down KNOW THAT, and I know you do -- still I wonder if you are willing to put guilt and shame and hurt on them -- not in any real hope that you can change them - you are too intelligent to believe that you can --- but rather, in hopes of making them hate themselves so much that if they do not kill themselves, they will spend their whole life hiding, and you will never have to deal with what they are.

So, those who believe that homosexuality is wrong -- that's their business. But people who try to change that belief into action that will harm others -- as I believe you may do (see para. above) -- are exactly what you have mentioned, homophobes, bigots, and unworthy of acceptance in civil society. I know members of the religious right who reject me (though they acknowledge that they cannot stand against me in theological debate, and so avoid having such debates with me, particularly online), but they do not try not to harm people. I also know members of the religious right who try to harm others, particularly gay children. No matter what core religious faith they are from, or what their excuses, those are my enemies -- and I'm not ashamed to say it.

I don't yet know which side of that equation you are on.

Blessed Matthew Shepard, with Mary the Mother of God, the blessed and all the Saints, pray for the mercy of All-mighty God on you, and all all of those who themselves are without mercy.

Kind thoughts,

Reynolds
http://www.rebuff.org
believeinyou24@yahoo.com

2007-07-16 15:10:22 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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