Does Pete Rose deserve to be in the Baseball Hall of Fame?

Question

I am a big Cincinnati Reds and Pete Rose fan, I have been since I was a little kid. Now I am 34 yrs of age it it just ticks me off to no end they wont let Pete in.

I'm not saying he currently shouldnt be banned from baseball for what he HAD done, but should he be banned from his past accomplishments.

Also, people say they would not want their children to look to him as a role model, but look at for instance Bonds? or half the Cincinnati Bengals drug/troubled prone team or all of the professional players from all sports that do way worse these days than what Pete had done.

Answer 1

Pete Rose Absoultly deserves to be in the hall of fame! He holds the record for most hits(4,256), At-Bats(14,053), and Games (3,562). Not to mention he has a batting average over .300. He played on the big Red Machine along with HALL-OF-FAMERS Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench. He has a fielding % of .987 and is second all-time with doubles(746). He is tied for second, along with Wee Willie Keeler, for the longest hitting streak of all time(44). He at one time played in 678 consectutive games. He is 6th all-time in total bases(5,752) in front of HALL-OF-FAMERS Frank Robinson, Lou Gerhig, and Mel Ott.

ANY QUESTIONS???

Also, he was charged with gambiling for and against his team AS A MANAGER. Why should an other-worldly player have his proper title of Hall-of-famer stripped from him because of something he did as a manager, not a player! Pete Rose is one of the greatest player of all-time and he should be recongnized a such!

Answer 2

Were it not for the special circumstances of his own making, there is little doubt he would have been elected quickly by the writers. However, he DOES have those special circumstances, and those do not go away ever, certainly not simply because he's Pete Rose. Sure, the Hall might look a bit better with the all-time Outs King in bronze, but the Hall doesn't want him. This really isn't the core issue anyway; rather his permanent ineligibility sanction with Major League Baseball is. And Rose does not, previously, now, and likely ever, deserve reinstatement. What exactly do the Rose Cultists hope to gain from incessant re-churning of this very settled matter? Tax-free status as a religious sect? It all, always, comes back to the same thing: Rose Did It. Rose violated, repeatedly and with full knowledge of the penalties, the rule against gambling. How he laid his wagers is irrelevant -- the gambling rule exists for a very important reason. Internal gambling has the potential to be massively corrosive to the game's economic basis, and there is nothing, NOTHING, that the owners will defend more vigorously than the financial well-being of their teams and leagues. Rose can be reinstated when "permanent" expires or when he's innocent. Yeah, good luck with either of those. I can support sending Seligula to the moon for many reasons, but not this one. I am in lockstep agreement with him on the Rose matter -- no reinstatement. Rose hasn't even begun to consider taking the first steps toward preparing to make a preliminary attempt at fixin' to pursue going after any life realignments that would even remotely merit MLB reconsidering his petition. He's still Out King Pete Rose, just older. (And while it isn't really germane, his 14 years of serial lying about his actions doesn't make him look any better.) I do think Selig should issue a decision on Rose's petition for reinstatement, filed in 1997, and that decision should be No. This "Rose for the Hall" topic should be a summary hanging offense.

Answer 3

If you go to Cooperstown and visit the Hall of Fame & Museum, you'll notice the "Hall" is only about 10% of the place. The Museum makes up 90% and in it you *will* see the accomplishments of Pete Rose receiving the credit they deserve.

Pete just can't have a little plague, that's all.

If Dad's want a hard playing role model for their son to look up to Cal Ripkin Jr., Jackie Robinson or Bill Mazeroski will do just fine.

I am however glad the HOF tries to protect the integrity of the game, even if it means banning Pete. Wouldn't want it any other way.

Answer 4

Pete Rose the player deserves to be in the HOF with no questions asked. Pete Rose the manager however deserves to continue his baseball ban. Just put him in the HOF and just dont allow him to be a coach or manager on any teams.

Answer 5

Yes, he deserves to be in. How could you not induct a guy stat wise who averaged over his career .300 with 200 hits and 100 runs scored a year? And he played almost every game he could in his career. That's basically Jeter numbers there and Jeter is highly regarded as one of the best in the game right now.

Okay, how about his ineligibility? He bet on Reds games in 1985-1987. But he bet on them to win. Personally, I see this as a victimless crime. It is not like he was throwing games. If anything, it was making him play and manage a little bit harder. And it showed, he left the Reds with a winning record.

To prove a point, here are some Hall of Fame members who did IMO worse.

#1 John McGraw: He grabbed on to players belts while they were on or rounding bases. In addition he tripped and spiked on a regular basis.

#2 Gaylord Perry: Was only of only a few pitchers ever suspended for doctoring the ball. When he pitched you never knew what was on the ball. All you knew was that something was on the ball.

#3 Whitey Ford: Used his wedding ring to cut the ball, used mud on the ball. He even had a roll-on applicator he used on the ball which had baby oil, turpentine, and resin.

#4 Don Sutton: He was accused and later suspended for scuffing the ball. It was such a problem he was rountinely searched.

#5 Ty Cobb: Routinely spiked or tried to spike players when he stole bases.

And these are just the ones off the top of my head. I think Rose's 'crimes' affected the outcomes of games less than these.

If these guys made it, why doesn't Rose?

Answer 6

For his accomplishments on the field, absolutely yes. See here is where Bud Selig's legacy as commissioner will haunt him. Bart Giamatti told Rose that if he confessed and took the year ban, he'd be reinstated but we all know a couple of weeks later, Giamatti died. Bud Selig wants to do the right thing for baseball by getting rid of hgh and steroids but the other right is to put Pete Rose in his rightful place in the Hall of Fame and allow the Reds to retire his #14.

Answer 7

Yes. Ty Cobb is a racist, he stabbed someone, and he still got in. So from what I get, gambling on baseball is worse than stabbing someone. I thought it was the other way around. There are other Hall of Famers that have done things as bad as Pete and even worse than Pete. Pete should be in the Hall.

Answer 8

I do not like Pete Rose and have never liked Pete Rose. That aside, he deserves to be in the HOF. I think that his bansihment from baseball should not affect his induction into the HOF. Personally I think that all managers should be forced to bet on their own team each game. Might help them motivate their players a little more.

Answer 9

He deserves to be in the hall of fame, he played like no one, he's the all time leader in hits (no steroids needed), a winner, a leader, a roll model IN the field.
What he did after I really don't care.
Now tell me, does Barry deserves a place in the Hall before Charlie Hustle?

Answer 10

As a player he deserves to be in, but this is one rule that can not be broken and he broke it big time. You can not let him in the Hall. Future players and managers need to know that in order to uphold the integrity of the game that betting on baseball has to be a no no. You will not be seeing him in the Hall, I am almost sure of it unless he dies.