And you defend this guy?

Question

How can Cons defend this guy???


Doug Thompson writes for the conservative Capitol Hill Blue:

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the [Patriot] act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

Answer 1

Sorry, but I talked to 6 people that were present that day, and they said it never happened.

Oh, I just talked to another 11 people who were also there. They said it never happened either.

Answer 2

I do like that the only substantive posts on this question have addressed how valid this is: as if President Bush calling the Constitution "a goddamned piece of paper" really were out of character. Regardless of these statements, Bush's actions speak volumes about ignoring, rewriting, and disobeying the law. This has led to the Supreme Court overturning more of his executive orders than any other President. It is practically a fact that President Bush finds the limits of the Constitution to not fit his pragmatic needs. Whether he says this in a private meeting or not does not really matter. List of Constitutional rewriting by President Bush's Actions:

- Warrantless detention of those deemed enemies without oversight.
- Allowed practices that have been defined by Congress as torture
- Violated treaties that the Constitution considers the "Supreme Law of the Land"
- Warrantless wiretaps of American citizens
- Disobeyed over 750 statutes passed by Congress that he finds inconvenient.
- And now the invocation of "executive privilege" which has no relationship to national security.

He doesn't respect the Constitution, it doesn't matter to me what he says.

Answer 3

Bush is not the first Presidant to have problems with the Constitution. Bill Clinton said the same thing in England when talking to Blair about Somalia. It seems absolute power does corrupt absolutely. Power is a HARD thing to control. And given the President is the most powerful person on the planet, it goes to their heads, and anything that stands in the way of that power, is a problem,even the Constitution. Don't worry about what anyone says about the Constitution in a private meeting. Words are cheap, only worry when the Words become actions, which, from what I understand, is already happening. Keep your eyes and ears open and, if we all do that , maybe we can prevent any President from changing or ignoring the Constitution.

Answer 4

Its true. Our president thinks he is some sort of royalty and that he is above the law. I have lost all faith in our government when he said that and the fact that he wanted to push immigration and amnesty reform down the Americans' throats. It was just a way that he could continue his line of bulls*it to the people, the same people that gave him a vote of confidence in the 2004 elections - even though he LOST the 2000 election, but his dear sweet daddy did the only responsible thing he could - that is get the US Supreme Court to defy the popular vote and appoint his dear sweet son as president! His White House thugs have to go - if the US Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper" and his term ends - he could declare that same "goddamn piece of paper" to force a coup and thus make him dictator!
You need to know I am neither a con or a lib, and I claim NO party - not yet, anyway. We REALLY need an election, and we need it TODAY!

Answer 5

George H.W. and Barbara must be oh so proud. Actually, I wonder if his own parents are embarrassed by their son.

To your post.... To be fair (which I do claim as a liberal virtue), no one has been willing to be on record to validate the Constitution-is-paper anecdote. Thompson has NOT talked to three people who verify it - he's talked with three people who were at that meeting and recall Bush getting very heated about being pressured concerning the Constitution, and they say that it wouldn't surprise them if that IS what he said, but they don't recall it, or more specifically, they are not WILLING to recall it because it wasn't a very big meeting. That's what Thompson has actually said about it.

But as Thompson has also said, the report has never been refuted, on or off record.

Answer 6

Neither my husband or I voted for him! We wanted Al Gore as our president! We voted for Al Gore.This article just confirms my instincts were right about Bush from the first.

Things will just keep getting worse from here people, it's time to wake up!

Answer 7

Mr. Bush or George or Bush as I refer to him is no longer president in my mind .
Once he violated his oath of office to protect and defend and uphold the constitution and the laws of this land he ceased being my president .

I my not like some things that presidents have done but this is the first one that I no longer respect or support and actively do my part in opposing him at every chance I have .

This administration is going to be recorded as the most corrupt in history .
What Nixon did was wrong but common practice for many campaigns .

I supported Nixon till the day he left office and consider him a fine president who accomplished numerous positive work to help the people of this nation .

He was a bigot and a racist but so where most Americans and if nothing else the president needs to reflect the values of the nation .

Answer 8

ain't no way i'm going to defend this guy. all politicians put on a kissy-kissy face for public before election. it is only when they are elected that they show their true colors. like a chameleon, only a vicious i don't give a sh** chameloen.

Answer 9

I left the country for a reason ... I stopped watching the news and everything for a reason too. i can't stand hearing this crap theres no defense for it and I'm not defending anything ... Possibly why I no longer live in the US ...

Answer 10

Finaly Bush showed his real ugly, fascist face or as Plutarch would wrote "he drope all pretence of being a friend (of the people) and spoke like a tyrant and enemy as truly was"

Answer 11

Yes, this is very true.

The man has disdain for everything American, and he only cons the cons, into thinking that he is their lord and savior, but just as he did with the religious right, the minute their backs are turned, he sticks the proverbial knife into it.

He only gives them huge tax cuts in order to keep them on his leash, and they fall for him head over heels because of their lust for the dollar bill.

The man is akin to a dime store fascist.

Like nazi supporting grandaddy, like grandson.

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