why is that some company in the phlippines have school discrimination?

Question

i don't think its right! i often found it in advertising section where in i can read that they only accept applicants and job seekers from school like dlsu, ua&p, up and other exclusives school,,,,,,hahahaha they're all damn,,,they take for granted those individual who are embued with talent and great ideas ,,,i studied in a university in Leyte,but due to urge of my older pals who says I'll find it hard to get a job..I insist to my parents to study in one of private universities here in manila,,,,,and ohh my gosh only to find out how dull the students here are......not to sound concieted but to my assessment students from my past universities were more intellectual people,,, even though they're more centralized because there here,,,mga tanga, walang utak, lack initiatives and very mahangin....yan ba ang gusto nilang kunin sa company nila,,,,,,,? up? damn, dlsu? trying hard, admu? walang pumapasa, ust?parating fiesta, feu? under the table, ue? saan napupunta pere namin, adamson?grr

well i really.. tend to generalized! i just laugh how this people react,,proud pa sila kahit na nakasama ang mga school na yan sa top 500,,,eeew, kilometers naman ang layo. i challenged this people to go to prc..to find out that most professional were from the province..and those school got a very high passing percentage...for example
MINDANAO STATE UNIVERSITY-
UNIVERSITY OF SAN CARLOS
SILIMAN UNIVERSITY
CEBU NORMAL UNIVERSITY
LEYTE NORMAL UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF BICOL

Answer 1

Yes, thats true.

I encountered that myself, 8 years ago when I still in Manila and looking for a new job. Well, I'm a "probinsyano" - "poor guy from the province" and graduated from a small college which is not well known.

I once applied for a job in a large scale company in Makati base on there ads it says "preferably from this and this university" but yeah I did try my luck and ended in an interview with the HR and I challenge the hiring officer "Are you not satisfied with my knowledge and experience? Give me what type of examination your company has as long as it related to the job opening. And I told them to compare my results to those who graduates from top universities" "Yabang no.".

Luckily, they did not give me a single examination instead they hire me immediately and yes I did my best to proved them.


Thats the way how market yourself, especially if theres a though competition.

Answer 2

It is a sad documentary on the state of our Philippine job market when employers are basing their hiring primarily on the applicants' school and not on credentials as a whole. There's really more to an individual than the college/university where he/she graduated from. To my mind, this narrow practice of hiring would hurt the companies in the long run as they are limiting their pool to a select few which may not really be the best of the best.

I do not claim that UP, DLSU, ADMU are not excellent institutions - they are! - but to lump all their alums as excellent studes (and would therefore make excellent employees) is bs. It is not the school, it is the individual!

In the same vein, it is rather unfair that you have collectively branded the studes from the above schools as such and such. In every school - bar none - there are always the intellectuals, the ordinary and the wannabes. So please re-think your generalizations.

In the end, my advice to you guys is to believe in yourself. If you truly believe you can do the job, fight to get it. Don't let anyone slam the door on you before you can even put your foot in. Get in there and fight! Migs did and he won!!! It can happen to you too. Good luck.

Answer 3

well, i do understand your sentiments but i think you're barking at the wrong tree. Those people who chose those universities have no control of this matter whatsoever. parang mali ata yung pinagbubuhusan mo ng galit. Let us stop generalizing, hindi naman applicable sa lahat yun. UP students, you can't consider them as walang utak. Have you tried writing the UPCAT? I don't think you can consider them as walang utak. La Salle? yup they are mostly rich but trying hard I tend to disagree din. ADMU (the best sa law) , UST including Mapua dyan galing ang karamihan sa mga engineers natin na pumapasa sa board exams. From the company's point of view, they are also basing it on their experiences. Some of them graduate din ng same university, so if you're the HR siguro nga medyo biased ka dahil alam mo kung ano yung pinagdaanan nyo to graduate. The best you can do is to apply for the jobs even if it says that they prefer graduates of this university. And when you get into that company prove them wrong. At the end, what matters most is what you can offer them and what the others can't. That will be based on your personality and your skill.

Answer 4

It seems you're very angry with students of these exclusive schools. I did try to get into UST but failed the first 2 entrance examinations. I didn't even bother returning for the 3rd. I was aldo turned down at CEU, my mom's alma matter. Despite these rejections I feel no hatred towards them or their students. Okay, so some companies prefer applicants from UP, Ateneo, La Salle, etc. There's nothing you can do about it. That's their criteria for judjing. They believe in the academic capabilities these applicants will bring to their companies & will only accept those applicants from said universities.
Bear in mind that the managements of these companies came from these universities so they feel that they should hire folks from their alma matters. It's a sad fact that there's indeed a school discrimination in companies. You have several options. You can choose to ignore applying in these companies & beleive in your own capabilities & apply in a company with no discrimination. Why bother applying in a company that accepts only grads from UST, UP, & FEU? You'll only be denied access. Move on & prove to the company you're applying at that you're just as good, if not better, than those guys from Ateneo, Adamson, UP, etc.
Your other option is to swallow your pride & study again. This time, study at these universities you so hate. You may resent the fact that even though you're better than them, people will still look at them much higher because they're from UP, La Salle, Ateneo, etc. But what if by studying in these schools would lead to your immediate hiring? Not only are you from Ateneo, you're also very good at your job. It's not such a bad opportunity if you take a look at it.
The decision is up to you. My best advice is for you to stop resenting these people from these schools & prove to everybody you're better than them even if you're not from these schools.

Answer 5

It's just that some people tend to generalize with little knowledge bout what they're talking. Little knowledge indeed is very dangerous!

It is true that a lot of companies tend to recruit and hire graduates from the top universities in the philippines for they are very reputable compared to other schools who only seek profit out of those who are given promises that they are going to get jobs after graduation which is a notion that is common to those who aspire.

Diploma mills give false promises that there is a bright future after graduating.

If you really are good, and you just stated that from where you came from, people there are intellectuals.... why wouldn't you consider entering universities like UP admu and la salle?

Answer 6

It's not good to write bad things about the top universities w/c are definitely so untrue. Most companies prefer to employ graduates from these universities because the universities they've graduated from are known for its competence and excellence over the centuries in different fields of expertise.

Furthermore, UP, DLSU, ADMU and UST are the only universities in our country that was among the top 500 world universities and were known for their excellence that meets the international standards of higher learning.

UP was known as the best Philippine university and notably a center of excellence in Law and Medicine. DLSU on the other hand was known for its excellence in Commerce and Engineering. ADMU is known for excellence in Law and pre-Law courses. UST w/c is almost 400 years old has shown its excellence in Medicine and Engineering. And UA&P has a high standard on business related courses. These universities also have world-class facilities that is essential in building the students' skills and intellectual capacities.

If I were an employer and I have graduates from UP, DLSU, ADMU, UST, UA&P, University of Leyte etc. Most likely I will employ graduates from top universities because these universities were well known for its high standards and I would want to hire for my company people who are more capable and has the edge over the others.

It is sad that there are school discrimination but we should think that most companies only wants the best for their companies for their company's interest as well.

Answer 7

i've talked to the HR of our company about this. Based on her experience:

Internet (Jobstreet, JobsDB, etc) and public JobFair hiring - they get a lot of "qualified" people from these sites, based on their resume. However, she said that out of 10 interviewed (from various schools, not just the ones you are so bitter about), only 2 or 3 are "actually qualified".

School Job Fairs - in school job fairs, she said that the "market" of people is very very different. Here, our of 10 applicants, about 5-6 are "actually qualified". However, not all schools have job fairs and they choose those that have the biggest percentage of "actually qualified" people.

The hiring process takes a lot of time and not to mention company resources (money, manpower, etc). She admitted that for FRESH GRAD POSITIONS, they do have a "separate" pile for resumes of those who graduated from "top schools". This is for the simple reason that there are more chances of finding the right people in these schools. They dont turn aways "other" resumes, but they have a preference for the "top schools".

She said, it's not just the intellectual capacity that they are measuring. There are also other traits, like well-roundedness, ability to interact effectively with existing employees, etc. She said that over the last years, the top schools generated more people of this calibre. As soon as they're done with the "top schools", they move on to the other resumes. She also said that the "top schools" are more rigorous in training their students, this limits the actual training the new hires will have to undergo, saving money.

She said it's not discrimination, because (especially for non-fresh graduate positions), experience is still more important. Not because you're from a top school, you're immediately hired, or just because you didnt graduate in any of those school, you're ignored or turned away. It's just that for Fresh Grad Positions (and some other positions), you have nothing else to base on but the type of training they went through, and that is provided by their respective schools.

The type of training these schools put students through is no joke. You said you studied here? Then you must know what I'm talking about. It's hard enough to pass the entrance exam, but to stay in school and graduate is something that gives students and alumnae PRIDE. It's not just an empty school name that's being taken advantage of. It's the institution, training and values we learned.

You gripe on about discrimination, and yet here you are generalizing the people in the schools you mentioned. What do you call that? In my school, that's also called discrimination.

If the University of Leyte enjoyed this type of prestige as well, I don't think you'd be griping this much. I dont think it's the students you have a problem with. After all, you couldn't have met each and every one of the students. You couldn't have studied in each and everyone of the schools (did you?). Therefore, your basis is a couple of people whom you found lacking in intellect (based on your standards) and the difference of their culture from yours.

Yes, this type of injustice do happen (and I'm not in favor of blind discrimination of this type). However, it's in poor taste, what you've written here. You couldn've asked the question in a more civilized manner, not throwing insults right and left without really making any solid accusations or reasonable, quantitative arguments.

*** Blame the companies, not the schools. ***


Comments on your additional info:

You think it's funny that people are offended by your belittling their schools and the amount of work they've put through there?

You think it's funny that people are offended by your discimination? I thought that's what you're up in arms against?

I think you're forgetting the real issue here, which is companys that discriminate. The issue is against the companies / people who discriminate (like you). Those in the TOP 500 are "Nakaka-sama"? So now it's bad to be excellent and be recognized? If the other universities you just now mentioned become part of the TOP 500 and the "prefered schools" as well, then they're also "Nakaka-sama"??

What's your REAL issue?

Answer 8

company phlippines school discrimination

Answer 9

Because ADMU, UP, DLSU are known for high standards, and they have good track records with their students which sadly other schools don't have. I admit there are some students who aren't from these schools that are at par with any Atenista, Lasallista or Iskolar ng Bayan but they are very few and far in between.

I beg to differ with "tanga", "walang utak", lack initiatives (sic) and "very mahangin". You seem to be generalizing a lot based on some people whom you might know superficially.

Firstly, with your statement that a graduate of Ateneo, La Salle or UP is "tanga" or stupid or that we have no brains, I beg to differ. The average IQ of my batch in college was around 130-140 (which in layman's terms is SUPERIOR to GENIUS intelligence). UP and La Salle have similar standards. These schools only take in the best of the best in terms of academics and performance.

Second, with regards to initiative, we, from these so-called exclusive schools, have initiative. We were left to our own devices in terms of what books to read and when. What projects to do and how. Other schools have it easy because they are spoon-fed. There is no such animal in ADMU, UP or DLSU.

Thirdly, as to "very mahangin" and "mayabang", you maybe misconstruing our confidence as arrogance. Confidence is something these schools teach their students. It may come off as arrogance, but in the words of several professors from several exclusive universities, "Kung may ipagyayabang naman eh".

I graduated from Ateneo de Manila University with a Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology. To pass the Ateneo, you have to take the Ateneo College Entrance Test (ACET). Only one out of 5 people pass that test. 20% if you do the math. Out of that 20%, my course only gets the top 25% so out of all the examinees, I rank somewhere in the top 5%. Do I apologize? Hell no. There are people smarter than me still who are part of the top 5% of those who passed. That is the top 1% of the total. UP and La Salle have similar standards.

I went on to finish my Doctor of Medicine degree from UERM and passed the Philippine Medical Licensure Boards in one take. Where do you think I learnt the discipline and stamina to go through medical school if not from the Ateneo?

One final note, one reason why big companies hire persons from ADMU, UP and DLSU is good command of the English language.

Answer 10

Yeah right... Sad but very true! That's why I am here in the mid east far from my beloved country working and earning money helping the Philippine government to increase the value of peso against dollar.