What do you think is the source of the new wave of intolerance of babies & toddlers normal behavior?

Question

I am referring specifically to the latest airline incident in which a stewardess had the pilot turn the plane around & remove a mother & her 19 month old son because (after an 11 hour lay-over) he was talking during her presentation of safety information. This mom found herself & her child being escorted out of the airport by police. Incidentally, her son had fallen asleep from during the time they had been removed from the plane on the way to the gate. He was exhausted & understandably cranky.

I have experienced other instances of intolerance against my son in FAMILY restaurants. I had one woman come up to me once & ask me if my son (who was 1 at the time) had been tested to see what was wrong with him. I politely told her "No, I don't need to have him tested. I know what the problem is. The problem is HE'S AN INFANT!!!"

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In another incident we were on vacation & went to a diner for breakfast after a night of no sleep because of teens partying next door. My son was tired, hungry & cranky as we all were. He was 2 at the time. A man came up to me while we were sitting there waiting for our food & told me I was rude. I asked him what I had done to him. He said because my "kid" was crying & disturbing his meal. I told him that the only rude person I saw was HIM because he was an adult & KNEW BETTER than to disturb other diners & my son didn't! My philosophy is if you don't want to be disturbed by kids, up your dining budget & go somewhere where there is no kid's menu.

Nobody knows the circumstances or reasons why a child may be crying - such as this child who was removed from the plane. He had just experienced an 11 hour layover, something that would be difficult & trying even for an ADULT!

WHAT IS UP WITH THE WORLD TODAY THAT BABIES & TODDLERS ARE EXPECTED TO ACT AS ADULTS?

The child on the plane was on his mother's lap & was saying "bye bye plane." Many of the other passengers came to the defense of the toddler & are now going to the authorities & the airline with their eyewitness accounts of how the only one "out of control" was the stewardess.

I was referring to my own personal incidents about my son when I referred "crying."

Answer 1

It's a case of people not having enough to do in their lives but to sit and come up with reasons to gripe. Nichole.

Edit: I was reading some of the other comments. While I agree that people shouldn't take their children out if they are tired or grumpy to keep fit throwing to a minimum, I have experienced first hand a tantrum of massive proportion with my 18 month old (someone said at 19 months a child should know to sit down and be quiet when told) in the middle of the grocery store. He wasn't tired, he wasn't grumpy... IT'S THE ONLY WAY HE CAN REALLY COMMUNICATE THAT HE IS FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE OR BORED. A child of that age doesn't understand the need to express him/herself any differently than they would at home. I agree that a drunk and disorderly person would be discharged from a plane, but that person is an adult and has the capabilities of controlling themselves in public. If my son throws a fit in the store, I simply push my cart to the side and take him to my car and let him finish, that's me... lots of people (like people on a plane) can't do that. People should be a little more patient with our little ones, they are the ones who shape our future and I would hate to see what the world would be like in a few years if we keep going the way we are.

Answer 2

Ok, you first said the child was "talking", then you said crying. I googled the article and it says "crying uncontrollably" and "throwing a temper tantrum on the floor". Airlines have a few hundred other passengers on board, all who paid the same amount of money. If someone is drunk and causing a disruption, they're removed. Why would it be any different for a kid who cannot be brought under control? (or sedation, that'd work too) Just because it's a kid doesn't mean it gets a free pass. The other passengers have rights too, including the right not to arrive at their destination with ruptured eardrums.

I'm not a big fan of trying to eat a dinner I paid for while listening to a screaming kid. However, I've never actually said anything about it to the kid's handler. If it gets to the point I can't stand it any more, I just leave. Given the confusion between "talking" and "throwing a tantrum on the floor", I'm guessing there was more to your adventures in dining out than you're letting on.

Answer 3

I dont like crying and screaming children out in public either. I raised a daughter and my daughter NEVER did that. If a child is screaming and crying the parents need to take the child away from the public eye and correct that child. Sorry I believe in discipline and there is no reason for a screaming crying child out in public. If you knew your child was tired and grumpy then you should have ordered take out and remained in your room.I dont even go out when Iam tired and grumpy. Why would you take a small child that is in the same condition?

As for the child on the plane, 19 months old should already know how to be seated and remain quiet when told to

Answer 4

Half a dozen incidents hardly qualify as a wave of intolerance...

Years ago no parent would have thought of taking a cranky one-year-old to restaurant. If you are seeing increased intolerance, perhaps is is because there are more opportunities for clashes between crying babies and intolerant adults than there were in the past.

Answer 5

hi, my son has great eye touch, is amazingly affectionate and has severe autism. a number of the failings you have stated are crimson flags for autism and as that's understood to be genetic and you have aspergers in the relatives there is an possibility he could be, i might recommend a visit to the Dr and spot what they think of. that's greater perfect to understand now if there's a difficulty because of the fact the faster you already know the faster you are able to help. there could be not something incorrect in any respect and truthfully he ought to in basic terms be getting poor 2's slightly early or as you mentioned be slightly spoilt (are not all of us to blame of spoling our infants !!! lol). issues to look out for could be repetitive behaviour, does he wave bye bye, spin wheels on automobiles or play with toys in a various way than estimated. basically right desires.

Answer 6

That stuff is crazy--the way people are acting that way, I mean. I think people now are often just plain selfish--they expect the world to revolve around them. And it seems like people these days have less contact with young children, for some reason. They don't know what "normal" really is for kids--that normal kids cry sometimes! It's sad. Kids should be able to be kids, not miniature adults!

Answer 7

Adults today are immature, not much more sophisticated than the toddlers themselves. Too many adults are
self-centered, impatient, and irritable.