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1) Is it worth it to continue having so many troops come home in body bags? - maybe it is. Because so much is potentially riding on the outcome of Iraq, and the lives of so many innocent people.

2) What would happen if we just suddenly left Iraq tomorrow?
Chaos, destruction, even genocide could ensue.

3) Do we know what we mean when we use the word 'victory' in terms of Iraq?

4) Do we have a strategy to achieve victory?

2007-07-12 11:54:21 · 14 answers · asked by Zezo Zeze Zadfrack 1 in Politics & Government Politics

14 answers

1 - Absolutely not. If carpet bomb Iraq, the bad guys will just move somewhere else. We can't destroy the world to ensure our safety. The answer is defending our borders, not trying to expand them.

2 - Probably lots of bad stuff. That doesn't change the fact that AMERICAN lives should be the priority of the AMERICAN government.

3 - Cons have never been able to, and will never be able to define their precious ''victory''. Hopefully they don't think it's killing or jailing every terrorist. That's kinda a bad strategy since we're making WAY more than we're killing / jailing.

4 - Bush has no strategy to achieve ''victory''. He doesn't know what his victory is, nor how to achieve it.

2007-07-12 12:00:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Good, thought provoking questions, keeping your views clearly separate. Well done.

1) Yes. We've created a no-win situation for the Terrorists. We're too on watch here. If they do attack us here, we get more put into our defense. They can't attack sufficiently to win here. There is a clear possible win in Iraq if they can get us to withdraw and the Iraqi government fails. They have to gather all their forces under one umbrella to be successful.

We've created the largest fly-trap in the world, with minimal loss of life to American civilians and the lowest military casualty rate in the history of war (virtually).

2) If we left, the other nations would sweep in and try to conquer it as soon as possible, or send wave after wave of further terrorism to force them into line with the other Islamic dictatorships. My family left Islam in the 1950s for just this reason.

3) We were victorious. We beat Saddam in record time. Using the word victory is just silly now. That's like saying you were victorious against cancer. Are you sure? You mean it will never come back? How silly. Terrorism will always exist, but to cave in to it?

Would you do that with any disease? Is it defeat that we are constantly fighting disease, drugs, crime? Should we just collapse and die because we haven't had a "victory".

Some people don't have the sense they were born with.

4) We do. For some reason a few fools think our President is in the job of revealing national secrets and strategies, and if he doesn't reveal everything to the public (and therefore our enemies) he must be hiding something and involved in a conspiracy. What does he have to hide? Right?

What nonsense.

I had two parents in government (C.I.A./Treasury and the other in the U.N.). My respect for the political acumen of the general public gets lower every day.

2007-07-12 12:05:45 · answer #2 · answered by mckenziecalhoun 7 · 1 1

1. As much as I hate seeing even one of my fellow service members die, the undeniable fact is that we haven't even lost 1/10 of the number of troops we lost in any other war. That being said, I wish I could have stopped everyone of them for dying, but they sacrificed themselves for the greater good of their nation, for the greater good of the Iraqi people, and to make this world a safer place. They are heros and deserved to be revered as such. I know they are in Heaven, all of them, looking down on us.

2. If we left Iraq tomorrow there would be a power vaccum in the Middle East. Iran would be the first to try and fill it by backing the Shiites in the civil war against the Sunnis, along with Syria. Oil rich Saudi and the UAE would step in to protect the Sunnis, drawing Kuwait in as well. Meanwhile, the Kurds would be stuck in the middle, with their archnemesis Turkey just chomping at the bit to exterminate them while no one is paying attention. Think chaos on Biblical proportions.

3 & 4.Victory in Iraq is succesfully training the Iraqi Security Forces to take over their country. Once they are capable of protecting their own land the U.S. will pull most combat troops and assume a role similar to the one seen post WWII in Germany. I've provided and up to date map of Iraq's provinces and who'si n charge there. Most people don't realize that U.S. troops are basically only in the lead in the volitile Anbar Province these days. It's like the last frontier.
http://www.defenselink.mil/home/dodupdate/iraq-update/Handovers/index.html

2007-07-12 12:06:27 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

1) No. The cost of American lives or any lives is too high for oil! Cheney should take Bush hunting.
2) Families would be reunited. Sure there would be chaos, so send Bush over there to police it.
3) Bush used it on the ship he landed on. Ask him!
4) No. Bush doesn't realize that yet. He's being advised by a tellatubby.

2007-07-12 12:47:19 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

1) It may sound callous, but the body bags are surprisingly few for an opperation of that size.

2) Al Qaeda would claim another glorious victory over the Great Satan, drawing support from all over the muslim world. Iraq would go into full-fledge civil war, probably resulting in eventual victory for the pro-Iranian Shiite faction.

3) I don't think there's agreement on that.

4) no.

2007-07-12 11:58:38 · answer #5 · answered by B.Kevorkian 7 · 1 2

1. No. Especially because the war was fought because of lies.

2. All of the above. We really screwed the place up even worse than it already was. We can only pray that it gets better without us being there.

3. Nope. Even Bush doesn't know.

4. Nope. We had one in the beginning, but Bush refused to listen to his commanders and sent far too few troops and never had a plan for reconstruction.

2007-07-12 11:59:09 · answer #6 · answered by Blade_III 4 · 6 1

There is no way in hades that the US a long time enemy can invade a foreign country and make everybody fall in line and love their way of life democracy. They don't get it and they never will as long as you have 2 or 3 warring factions confusing the situation even more. If we picked a side things might be different.

2007-07-12 12:08:50 · answer #7 · answered by Enigma 6 · 1 1

Al-Qaida is intensely interested in the debate going on in America right now. Any vacillating on our part is considered a victory for them.

Thankfully, Pres. Bush is standing strong against the opposition.

However, our military was unprepared in training and equipment to fight a war against a shadowy non-army. We only knew how to shoot the enemy in uniform, not deal with murderous cowards who use women, children and the elderly as human shields in their own houses.

Under the circumstances, we are doing quite well, though many changes need to be made.

2007-07-12 12:01:27 · answer #8 · answered by Free To Be Me 6 · 1 3

1)yes--nobody likes war because soldiers die.nobody wants even one to die.but we lost 55000 in Vietnam for a lesser(to me) cause 2)Iran might annex it. that's what Sadr is there for. genocide of sunnis might follow3) victory is a self sustaining government that can keep the peace and spred the power. 4) I think the fact that these people hate us and will do what they can to subvert our efforts ( except the Kurds) was a bitter revelation to us. It has changed everything & left us reeling.I hope we have a strategy

2007-07-12 11:57:46 · answer #9 · answered by smart-roll 2 · 0 3

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2016-10-21 01:20:35 · answer #10 · answered by tamayo 4 · 0 0

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