I asked this question the other day but it got squashed as I used a religious word, So I will ask agian is it right to have a Juror who has their face covered by a riligious head dress, I always understood Justice must be SEEN to be done, and how on earth does the judge or any one know who is under the mask.
2007-07-11 23:37:12 · 25 answers · asked by ? 6 in News & Events ➔ Other - News & Events
Considering there was a picture of her in the Daily Mail of her showing her face ...
Why should she be allowed to cover her face in court if she doesn't have to cover it on the street?
But if she was the kind of person that obeys her religious rules at all times she should be allowed to wear it in court.
2007-07-11 23:50:02 · answer #1 · answered by Part Time Cynic 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Another question that makes room for wonderful displays of intolerance, ignorance and exclusion... *sigh*
First of all, it was not a mask. It is a piece of clothing that though it covers a lot, would not make a person unidentifiable. It just goes to show how little effort people make to get in contact with others from different religions and customs. And the fact some users state that a hijab is frightening just goes to show what prejudice can amount to. I can communicate with people on a hijab and and the fact their face is covered is not a hindrance. Besides, identity checks can be done by other means, and I think everyone else in a jury goes through them, so that, for instance, a twin cannot replace their sibling.
Would you ask a nun to remove her headdress and habit to go to court? Would you ask an injured person to remove their cast and dressings? If you don't know the reasons for wearing it, don't judge it.
I believe Justice can only be done when it is not just on behalf of a white Christian majority.
Her fault was listening to an Ipod, for which she is liable. Nothing else. She covered it with her headdress, another could have tried with their hoodie.
2007-07-12 10:22:39 · answer #2 · answered by tense 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Justice is Blind.
She won't face a sentence in case it inflames Racial Tensions.
She will get a caution but very carefully, then will claim Emotional and Religious harassment via the Muslim Law Society, costing another 1.5 million on the Legal Aid bill.
What should happen of course is Criminal Proceedings, properly sentenced if found guilty; if a new British Citizen...Promptly repatriated.
Of course I can now await gasps of horror etc from the liberal idiots and those with an axe to grind.
2007-07-12 05:31:46 · answer #3 · answered by rogerglyn 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I would imagine that the lady in the head dress would have to show her face to the judge (or a female colleague) at the beginning of each day to prove she is who she says she is. I think its probably a decision that's made by the judge presiding on the day but I agree that someone should be checking who is under the head dress!
2007-07-11 23:57:56 · answer #4 · answered by sunshine 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
My whole feeling about this (and I'll probably get reported) is that these people are in an English Court of Law and should dress accordingly. They are also in England a Christian country and should stop ramming their religious beliefs down our throats. You don't see Jewish people throwing bombs etc etc, they came here and integrated much better than the Islamic people as did a lot of other people with different faiths to our own.
2007-07-12 01:40:09 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
What I dont understand is, how do they know that the person sitting in the jury is the same one that was selected if she is wearing head covering?
Sorry but we arein England and I believe we have a right to enforce the rules so that the Judge, Prosecution and Defense can see the jury ......... its just common sense.
2007-07-12 01:35:32 · answer #6 · answered by dave s 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You have a good point, how does the judge or council know its the same juror turning up every day ? it could be a Friend or relative under there, this could be worrying when a case could involve the possibility of a long sentence for the accused.
2007-07-12 00:25:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
My thoughts on this would be that here we have a muslim woman who claims to be following her religious beliefs.
In doing so, she believed her religion called on her to wear the headress in a court of law to cover her face in accordance with her religious teachings.
Why then, eas she listening to an ipod. Where in her devoutly religious laws does it say it is allowable to listen to an ipod under the headress.
2007-07-12 02:55:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm not sure if we have the same story but last week a young juror was charged with contempt of court because she had her ipod on, hidden by her headscarf.
Her face wasn't covered.
2007-07-12 00:58:08 · answer #9 · answered by True Blue Brit 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Tense people like you are trouble makers. If you come to England do as the english do.
If i go to Pakistan or Saudi I will observe their laws. I will not ask them to change for my benefit.
2007-07-12 21:04:43 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋