Why do Liberals not get it? if all we wanted was oil we could have it easily?

Question

'Steeling' oil would be sooo easy, the oil is not in the cities and towns, its in the desert. If the 'evil bush warmachine' wanted oil the war would have been bloodless, all we would have to do is roll in, secure the oil fields build a perimeter and thats it. No one can stop the US army in the field, 1000 yard kill zone, oil galore. But thats not what we went in for, we went in to take down an evil dictator in order the scare the bejesus out of Korea and Iran, and now we are proving we can build a successful Muslim Democracy. If we wanted oil we could have oil, whats not to get?

also even had we done this, it would not be walking around taking the Iraqi peoples little bags of oil. It doesn't work that way in a dictatorship. The Iraqi people didn't benifit from that oil at all. Look at food for oil; the corrupt UN people skimmed money off the top and then handed the rest of the money over to Saddam and his sons, non of it reached the street sweeper in Bagdad, or the Farmer in al-Anbar

Okay now to the folks who've caught on, the oil production out of Iraq has now stabilized, so nice try with the Bush was manipulating oil flow, nope.

mainly this question was aimed at the wrong and uniformed who chant 'blood for oil'

Answer 1

the man has a point. look at our air defense. they could hold any oil field position, no problem, indefinitely.

Answer 2

Ok Ben - thank you for demonstrating that it is you who does not get it.
Iraq was the 4th largest producer of oil in the world. It could be the second.
He who controls Iraq's oil output controls steady flows not just from Iraq but from the rest of the oil producing world. He also controls the price!
This was the basis for Iraq's invasion of Kuwait as well.
That is what is not to get and it is clear you haven't even thought it through yet, let alone got it.

Answer 3

It might be over most Liberals heads or to prometheus to realize we don't need their oil, in fact if we move beyond the need for it, most of the Middle East will have nothing of value to trade with the Global market and it will make the Mid East and even worse getto than it is now. They have all this income from oil but most people live in conditions that are up to 200 years behind most western nations. You think they are nutty now they will get a lot worse if we don't solve the problem now. The leaders of the Mid Est Countries don't want to make life better for their citizens, they want citizens so desperate that they will do anything asked of them. America infringes on it enternal slave/master system.

I have cousin in Iraq on the ground in the streets of Bagdad and in his letters he tells me that most Iraqi's he's in contact with are pissed because they don't have our standards of living yet. It took America a long time to have a high standard of living and they want it now.

Answer 4

when I say "it's for oil"... I don't mean stealing...

I mean destabilizing a major oil supplier... with a war...

threaten to destabilize the supply (which is what wars do)... what happens... price goes up...

price goes up... oil companies make record profit...

it has little to do with what the army can or can not do... as long as Iraq is unstable...

why would Bush want to steal oil? that would only drive the price down and make him really lose money in the end... out of the goodness of his heart? hahaha....

EDIT: it really has nothing to do with actual flow... only fear of flow interruptions... and that's up to the speculators... and the lines get blown every six months are so... far from stable...

Answer 5

Do you know about President Bush's 18 Benchmarks?

Do you know what the 'Iraq Hydrocarbon Act' is? Or H5638-H5641-H5642?

Here's the link:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=H5638&dbname=2007_record

This is TOTALLY about the U.S. opening up Iraq's oil to foreign developers.
In this benchmark legislation presented to the Iraqi Parliament we are telling them to agree to having to bid on developing their own oil.

Why should Iraq have to agree to globalize the exploration and development of their country's largest asset?

Some have argued ..."to the victors go the spOILs".

I think that's legalized pillaging!

Answer 6

Yes, it would be a lot easier if we just cared about oil. Also, people love to bash America and talk about how evil America is. If America was evil it would be a lot easier to win the wars because when insurgents attacked, we could just take out the whole area.

Answer 7

As weapons inspector Scott Ritter has pointed out various times, Bush and the U.S. ruling elite knew Saddam had no WMDs when they went to war. Like all imperialist powers, the U.S. went for the resources and to establish a military position in the oil-rich nation in an effort to fend off their capitalist rivals of China, Russia and Europe.

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War is a Racket

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933 by General Smedley Darlington Butler, USMC. General Butler was the recipient of two Congressional Medals of Honor - one of only two Marines so honored.

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

Answer 8

They said daddy Bush was only interested in Kuwait's oil. Where is that oil from 1991 war? Do we (or Bush) own that?

Answer 9

I have never said that the motive for going into Iraq was oil... I know it was WMDs but we should have left when we found none!

Answer 10

When are you going to get it?

Al-queda is stronger, so if it wasn't the oil, then what was it?

And I see just how "scared" North Korea and Iran are.

Answer 11

no no we went in to stop the evil nucUlar weapons that saddam was going to shoot to hometownville america, all within 40 minutes - remember the yellowcake plutonium that iraq got from AFRICA - oh well.

after that it was just to feed a bunch of corporate contracts.