Has anyone that supports socialized healthcare weighed the negative affects on all Americans?

Question

Please see this link:http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/socialized.html Free healthcare is similar to a free puppy...

Answer 1

i have relatives in Europe under socialized heath care and if your 60 and have a terminal illness, don't even think of getting treatment. you get pill to make you comfortable but that is it. their system is so overburdened that choices have to be made on who best to use them on. this would truly be a downhill spiral for America IF some get their way..u listening Michael Moore??

Answer 2

Yes of course we have - and what we fail to understand is why the Right constantly does two things
1. Confuse the nationalization of the heath industry with universal healthcare. Noone is advocating the former so why is it all the Right will speak about.
2. Continually state as a fact that other countries with universal healthcare are struggling or even thinking of moving away from the concept - without being able to provide a shred of evidence - and ignoring all evidence to the contrary (for instance the better health statistics, cheaper healthcare costs and higher ranking of healthcare systems for ALL developed nations with universal insurance when compared to the US.

So to address the points in this article
1.Universal health insurance (or a hybrid public/private system as is being suggested) does not prevent shopping around any more than a private insurance system does. To the contrary - if the government is prepared to pay a certain fee from treatment in ANY hospital, as opposed to forcing us into one HMO the way most private plans do - then such a universal system may actually encourage those prepared to spend a little more to shop around for a better service.
2. Once again this assumes complete government control of the industry - since noone is suggesting anything of the sort this is a complete strawman argument.
3. Using emotive words such as "steal" to describe the perfectly rational and fair status of expecting us to contribute to the country that we benefit from is demonstratative of an argument that is scraping the bottom of the barrel. There are benefits to us all of universal health care (even if we remain with private systems) and these should be paid for collectively.
4. All evidence in countries with universal healthcare points to the opposite. The US has the worst child mortality in the developed world. The US has one of the lowest life expectancies and healthy life expectancy in the developed world. No rationale is give for this argument it is just pure baseless scaremongering. The argument about moving to other countries is again irrelevant if we actually address universal health insurance and not the nationalization of the health industry.
5. This is pure fiction. This is no more the case than if two neighbours are insured by the same private company.
6. Noone is asking for anyone's liberty to be destroyed. You can always opt out of the system and pay for private health insurance - this is the way most developed countries work.

When you are ready to actually address what is being proposed by Democrats instead of pretending this is about some Orwellian beast of a system let me know. If at that time you could bring facts and rational arguments instead of baseless misinformation and scaremongering that would be good.
In the meantime we will keep looking for ways to fix the system that is a current national embarrassment

Answer 3

I do not think there is a clear plan being pushed by anyone yet but at least the Democrats are talking about it. it's a big issue in case you didn't know health care costs are still going up more then peoples wages so the 50 some million uninsured will also keep growing.

at some point does a Country take care of it's people
or does it do nothing.
I guess that's the point it's easy to do nothing about the issue but that's not going to make it go away.

Answer 4

The country does not help anyone. Tax payers supply all the money for these things. This would be a huge welfare boondoggle and eventually everyone would pay so much of their income for everyone to have it, quitting work will be a better option. Might as well be spoon fed your whole life rather than do anything on your own, right?

Socialized medicine would be the end of this country.

Answer 5

Pay no on no account minds to that stupid communicate. The NHS is first-classification. they don't seem to be making use of an entire syringe, those yanks, they think of we are 0.33 international. Suffice it to assert even whilst making use of the internal maximum equipment, each and every of the not person-friendly situations are referred back to the NHS and the internal maximum hospitals pay the bill. a splash a magic roundabout for idiots with extra funds than somewhat sense.

Answer 6

Somebody's going to pay for it. You & I, through our taxes (probably 40 % or more). I was stationed in holland & Belgium where socialized medicine was a way of life. I looked at my father-in-law's pay stub and saw he lost 43% to taxes. In Montana, we have many canadians coming down for healthcare since they cannot readily access the care in a timely manner.

Answer 7

what most people don't realize about socialized medicine is that it breeds doctors that don't care and treat their patients like an assembly line.

plus, if the hospitals funds are low, they won't have the money to do organ transplants and expensive treatments. so millions of people will die.

Answer 8

The supporters of socialized healthcare are too busy weighing Michael Moore.

Answer 9

who shops around for healthcare?

I don't know one person?

and that's like a FUNDAMENTAL KEY TO YOUR ARGUMENT...

the person that wrote that speaks in fairy tale ideas about the current U.S. system that simply aren't real...

Answer 10

They haven't thought about it, to busy drinking hillary's kool-aid. I have a job and pay my own health insurance, anyone that doesn't needs to get off their *** and get a better job. Why should I pay for you? If I pay your health insurance will you buy me a new porsche?