Is the Oklahoma 'Sooners Dilema fair?

Question

The NCAA is erasing the Oklahoma Sooners '05 season is to be erased because of "Failure to Monitor" for being paid for a job they didn't work at..... 2 players cost the Okies an entire season that lead them to the Holiday Bowl is that fair... can they punish a entire team for 2 players... why not just those involved not the entire University

Answer 1

Answer is NO! How is it that the NCAA officials can call a wrong PENALTY on a play, it be challenged and not over turned when it is plain as day a wrong call. And not just one bad call mind you but two in the same game. It cost OU a win and gives the win to Oregon. The NCAA after being challenged by OU reviews the plays of the bad calls admits they were wrong calls and should have been changed. Then the officials who called the penalties and reviewed them in the game admit they were wrong calls. These officials knew they were wrong calls, they just wanted Oregon to win the game. Corrupt officials they are you have to Admit it. They were suspended for one game but the NCAA would not change OU lost to a Win knowing OU would have clearly won the game if the bad calls had never been called or at lest been overturned. Now OU does the right thing and reports two corupt players to the NCAA for wrong doings, Cuts them from the team! and it cost OU the 2005 season. Stoops has the wins erased from his records but the lost remains on his records is this Justice of the NCAA to OU players of the 2005 season or to Coach Stoops no way in the world. And for those of you who thinks it is justified calling of the NCAA you are wrong in your thinking and if you ever commit any wrong doing and have to go to court i would love to be in the jury box at your trial.

Answer 2

There is nothing fair about this decision. First off, the team discovered the infractions, and severely repremanded the players and dealership involved. The NCAA had no idea this was even going on until the university notified them. How can the entire football dept. be punished for the actions of very few which the which the dept. found out and took immediate action? Second, this situation had very little bering on how the team as a whole performed in 2005. The proper people have been punished, and the university should be applauded for not trying to sweep this under the rug. How does look for other programs in the future who may find themselves in similar situations? What is their motivation to do the right thing? ...tell the NCAA and they will totally stick it to you for being honest?!! This whole thing stinks.
Another strange thing is they are erasing the wins from Stoops' record, but not the losses. Why not the whole system?
I must admit I am a Sooners fan, but this would be wrong even if it was Texas and Mack Brown's program. The NCAA has definitely overstepped what should be appropriate in this situation.

Answer 3

I believe the taking of scholarships were fine and fair. Scholarships are a big deal can it really hurt a team. But I disagree with the taking away of wins. What did Rhett and JD did was wrong but you don't need to have the entire team to pay for it.

You know how obsessive these boosters are but how was the athletic department suppose to know they were taking money on the side? I seriously doubt if you ask them "are you taking money for a job that you don't work or are you being paid hours that you didn't work", neither the booster or the athlete would say "yes". Also the AD can't really go to the booster and look at his books or his payroll to make sure that they are in compliance.

There is so much of this underhandedness going on around the country in all schools that the NCAA is just trying to make a martyr out of OU.

Answer 4

I do think it's harsh, as soon as OU found out about the infractions it dismissed the players from the team and imposed other penalties on itself. While I do think the NCAA had a right to impose other penalties such as further probation and or scholarship losses I think they went a step too far with actualy forfiture of games. These violations weren't on the scale of say the Michigan basketball teams that had to forfit seasons and championships. USC should be shaking in their cleats at this ruling should Reggie Bush be found guilty of the much worse violations he's been accused of...although I must admit that in that instance I'd be laughing my tail off.

Answer 5

I'm the furthest thing from an Okie fan, but I don't think it was fair to take the whole season away. The coaches kicked them off of the team as soon as it happened, then told the NCAA about it themselves.I mean, they were honest about it from the git go,instead of sweeping it under the rug like USC does..

Answer 6

They booted the 2 players off the team who were starters, QB included. Reported it to the NCAA and now they want to strip OU of games. It is wrong. I understand the scholarship deductions, but to take away wins for players who did not play. is unbelievable.

Answer 7

The team suffers because the team knew about it. I am from Oklahoma and I think the sooners are stuck up, coincided and I could go on. This isn't the first time they have done this. They thought they could get by with it by placing them on someones payroll, instead of just taking "gifts" from businesses. I think it is fair. I do root for them along with the cowboys. I support both teams. But I do think they deserved what they got.

Answer 8

Absolutely fair. They broke the rules, thus the players in question are deemed inelligible. Since the inelligible players suited up, they should have to forfeit those games.

And one of the players was the starting QB, so I'm not sure how they "Did not play". They stunk anyway in 2005, at least in the only important game, the Red River Shootout!

Hook'em

Answer 9

it is a little harsh.
ex Oklahoma resident and do not like this verdict.