How do people justify supporting leaving Iraq in the hands of the insurgence? Isn't that betraying the people?

Question

I thought Liberals wanted equal rights to all. I thought Liberals claimed being morally superior to other parties. How is leaving a nation to die at the hands of extremist considered to be moral?

Answer 1

That nation will always have to deal with insurgents and terrorists, like any other nation in the Middle East.

It's not Pokemon, we can't catch em all- and our being there is only making matters worse by attracting more foreign mercenaries to "fight the occupation". So the Iraqis will eventually have to handle their own security, and news flash- most Iraqis who welcomed us there in the beginning don't want us there any more!!

If the Iraqi people ultimately decide they don't want the current government, that's their choice- it's their country. But whether or not it comes down to a full-fledged civil war between Sunnis and Shia, we don't know. They'll have to sort out their own religious and political issues. Some argue that our presence there limiting the hostilities, but if a civil war is coming, we aren't going to prevent it, just delay it. If it can be avoided, our presence there isn't helping negotiations.

Last I checked, no liberals were making claims of moral superiority- just conservative talk-show hosts making wild claims of their own about what "liberals claim"

It's not like we're leaving overnight without warning- it's been 5 years. Why should we stay there indefinitely while things just get worse?

At this point there is no good solution- Iraq is a dangerous mess, worse than ever and will be for awhile, no matter what we choose to do. Staying isn't working and leaving will create other problems. It's a case of picking our poison and living with the consequences.

Answer 2

Why turn this insane, immoral, illegal 'war' into a liberal-conservative fight?? This 'war' was part of the overall plan, and is the one reason the 'powers that be behind the scenes' - who really control this country - selected George W. Bush to be President.
Members of the Bilderberg Conference wanted this war for three very 'lame' and shallow reasons:
1. The Bush family had a personal vendetta against Saddam Hussein ever since the days of Desert Storm when George H.W. Bush was criticized, ridiculed and humiliated for 'not finishing the job' and ousting Hussein at that time;
2. Cheny wants all that OIL swimming underneath Iraq's sands so that he and his Exxon-Mobil buddies can get richer and richer and richer feeding America's addiction to cheap, easily-accessible foreign OIL;
3. The giant U.S. military-industrial complex recognized - after World War Ii - how profitable 'war' could be. So all the politicians were bought up, pricey lobbyists were hired, and special interest groups were formed to encourage and promote more 'war'. Thus, we got involved in the Korean Conflict; the Cuban Missile Crisis; the Cold War; Vietnam and Desert Storm. A 'new war' was necessary to boost the sagging profits of government contractors like McDonnell-Douglass, Sikorsky, and Lockheed-Martin. Plus, there were two 'newcomer' government contractors bellied up to the bar for government hand-outs: the Carlyle Group and Halliburton, both of which have direct ties to the Bush-Cheney White House.
This 'war' - from Day One - was all about OIL and WAR PROFITEERING.
The Republicans know it; the Democrats know it.
That's why the U.S. is building the largest embassy in the world on a 104-acre site in downtown Baghdad, overlooking the 'new' Iraqi puppet government installed by the Bush administration.
That's why Halliburton has been contracted to build fourteen (yes - 14) permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq.
We will maintain a military presence in Iraq for decades to come - until we have sucked every drop of OIL from Iraq's sands.
Next Stop: IRAN. And for the very same reasons: OIL and WAR PROFITEERING. -RKO- 07/10/07

Answer 3

The reason they want to leave Iraq is to recreate their last real victory which was causing the United States to pull out of Vietnam.

Despite the fact that it hamstrung us militarily for years afterwards the liberals still get giddy when they discuss it.

Political power is much more important to them then the welfare of the country.

Answer 4

we gave the iraqi government a chance to move along and they failed, they arent helping the process and we might as well just leave either was its gonna collapse there is nothing we can do about that unless we wanna stay for severl more years which isnt gonna happen. If you didnt wanna have the country fall into terrorist control then why go in the 1st place. After we leave i raq will be more a threat to us then it was before we went in

Answer 5

How about 'we're running out of troops.' Yep. We won't have enough troops to keep this up by around next spring. Unless they want to call draft they should shut up about 'stay the course.' Because soldiers aren't made in factories. They're humans.

Don't tell me we have enough troops, because we probably do by numbers, but they're fatigued, went beyond their tour duty, They are way way over worked. There's not enough to keep this level of troops in Iraq. You want to know why? Troops are robots. They're humans.

I don't care if they want 'stay the course' if they can find more troops. But I can tell you these troops don't just pop into existence out of thin air.

Consider this. Bush put all war burdens on our voluntary military. He asked no civilian citizens to make sacrifice. He asked no civilian citizens to drive less, to conserve energy. No normal citizens are asked to make any sacrifice while he asks voluntary military to skip vacation, take all the burdens of war, asked their families to skip that holiday break...etc.

Is that moral?

Answer 6

They can justify it only by saying, "Just give me peace for the moment, no matter what happens later, and especially no matter what happens to people in foreign countries."

Answer 7

That question can only come from Liberals

Answer 8

well we had our For fathers do our fighting for us and we give in to big brother and we really dont know what its like to live under a dictatorship and we dont have bombs going off here so the majority says we leave . and we can fight them here .

Answer 9

Absolutely. The approach all along was to save the Iraqi people, even if you had to kill them all to do it.

Great plan, guys.

Answer 10

didnt the people betray us first?