Which side in the Iraq war is morally right: the Americans, or the people who are fighting them?

Question

Really? An Imperial power invades your country and its not morally right to defend it from them?

Sweetpea, the US set up the Iraqi government, and overwhelmingly, the insurgents are Iraqis.

Answer 1

The Americans are the invaders, and they're fighting an immoral war. They're wrong and those who oppose them are right.

Simple.

Answer 2

First the majority of insurgents are not Iraqis or mainstream Iraqis (well as mainstream as those people get). They are funded and armed by Islamist from outside Iraq including Iran. These are not people who represent the will of the Iraqis. They kill Iraqi women and children including burning them alive and other atrocities. They are monsters who enjoy minimal support among the masses.

Zenwoman- Muslim missionaries are at work all across the globe especially in south and central America and Africa but also note that Islam is being spread by forcible means in Africa and much of Southern Asia and the Pacific.

Answer 3

Through out history, when in war, a fighter is looked at as a patriot on one side and a terrorist from the other side.

LQQK at this analogy.
If a father or a male figure (Sadam) is beating up and raping his children (people of Iraq) and a powerful neighbor (USA) comes in and kicks the @$#! out of the abusive father and throws him out, I am sure his family would be very appriciative of such act.

However, they wouldn't want the powerful neighbor(USA) to come and live with them and start telling them how to live their lives.

After a while, the people living in the house want to fight back and kick the intuder out. And since they are not as powerful as the neighbor who came to their home (USA), they retreat to unconventional ways of achieving their goals.

We must realize and understand the world and not be so arrogant to think that "we don't need the world" but the world needs us.

Until this attitude changes, we will see the same things again and again for the next 100+ years.

One more thing, as you know all good things must come to an end. This is a law of GOD and NATURE.

Look at the Roman Empire (800+ years of supremacy)
Egyptian Empire (500+ yrs)
USA ( a super power really since world war I, before that see Britain)

Now if those great powers came and went, we must realize that the US time would come and another power (China?, Japan? who knows) would take over the US role.

This is a fact that we must accept. If we don't we are showing our ignorance.

Answer 4

as stated above there is nothing moral about the war, but keep in mind that the people fighting them are from the region while the Americans are the invaders ( and the right will say that Iranians or al-qaeda are not from Iraq, although when the neo-con's claim attacks are al-qaeda entering Iraq from elsewhere now and shouldn't be there, they used the excuse that al-qaeda was there to attack Iraq in the first place). Just remember this when someone, say a China-Russia coalition invades the United states some time in the future, you will argue that no outside countries should support the United States.

Answer 5

contrary to popular opinion, the gulf war did not end in 1991. Saddam signed a cease fire agreement, not a peace treaty, same as north Korea and china did in 1953 with the US and our allies then. which means that technically a state of war still existed between the US and Iraq, as well as the US and north Korea. the difference here is that north Korea, with rare exception, has abided by the terms of the cease fire agreement, where as Saddam did not. Saddam continually refused to allow weapons inspectors to do their jobs as they were required to, he refused to eliminate his WMD programs, he also fired on coalition aircraft patrolling the UN sanctioned no fly zones. any one of these by themselves was cause to invade, and eliminate the Iraqi government, but there is one more thing, President Clinton signed the Iraqi freedom act into law which required that the US government work towards regime change in Iraq. President Bush went to congress and the UN, and BOTH bodies authorized the use of force in Iraq.

when we go to war, we try to minimize collateral damage and civilian casualties, both are regrettable. when the insurgents go to war, they kill without remorse, they use innocent civilians as shields. if they win, the was escalates to other countries until there is a muslim controlled world. then they start killing each other because the others are not muslim enough.

so who has the moral high ground as it were? in my opinion we do.

Answer 6

The Americans. America isn't an empire, and it went to Iraq to liberate it. If all they wanted was for us to leave, all they'd have to do is stop shooting at us for a month, and that'd remove the need for us to be there. The Iraqi government was not created by Americans. The Iraqis created it themselves through voting.

Answer 7

This song, by Bob Dylan, should be required reading!

Pay special attention to the last stanza. Guess He's not on anyone's "side".


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Bob Dylan Lyrics
"With God on Our Side"


Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And the land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

The Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns on their hands
And God on their side.

The First World War, boys
It came and it went
The reason for fighting
I never did get
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And then we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war comes
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.

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Answer 8

What is "moral" is always subjective to where and with whom we live and in what community has the standards. There is no morality in killing. Every religious doctrine in the world is against killing no matter what the reason. Greed and fear are the driving forces in most wars. I don't see the Moslem's sending missionaries here to convert us or the Hindu or the Jews or the many other religions of the world. Yet we the Christians see nothing wrong in sending our missionaries out there to blatantly tell people they are wrong in their beliefs and not only that, they will go straight to hell if they don't convert to Christianity. If the positions were reversed and every weekend you saw a couple of people in robes carrying the Koran on your doorstep trying to convert you most people would be very offended. The greed comes in with the large corporations of oil companies. They want what the middle east or any other country on the planet has, namely oil and secondly our government would like to have a military base on their land. There is no morality involved in war on any ones part.

Answer 9

The koran actually states that they SHOULD kill "infidels". (72 virgins ring a bell?) I know from when we got this muslim girl at school to admit it shortly after 9/11. You could tell she really didn't like sharing that information at that point in time.

While I really don't believe in or support the kind of morality most people would assume is the only kind or the "right" kind, the only side of this conflict I would really condone is keeping the foreign imperial power out of your homeland.

Answer 10

Let's see. Americans use a lie as an excuse to invade a country and execute it's leader. After the lie is discovered the Americans use another lie to occupy the country to distract that other American's are making money while in partnership with yet another country whose citizens actually attacked the United States. Morally right? PUH-lease!!

Answer 11

The Americans are partnered with the Iraqi government who want a democratic free nation. The insurgents are from other countries who are trying to destabilize the democratic government and install their own radical islamist regime. I think the Americans and the Iraqi government are on the morally correct side.