where did this start? is this a media thing?
2007-07-09
08:28:25
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angry lib...you're not understanding the question
,,,fascism is a political premise/ party....not a general moniker for bad guys
2007-07-09
08:39:23 ·
update #1
people they are not holding to the tenets of Fascism.....
2007-07-09
08:40:24 ·
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steelgrave..I am not a liberal....and your arrogance does not allow for rational discussion.. thanks for your answer
2007-07-09
08:59:22 ·
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I don't apologize needlessly ..I have no white guilt
I am just amzed at how the American public takes to jingoism...hey there is a good "ism"
2007-07-09
09:01:13 ·
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xenypoo...religion is always faith based not fact based.
control does not equal fascism.....our government wants to control my life and they are in a better position to do it than the Nation of Islam
2007-07-09
09:04:02 ·
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here you go steelgrave...one fascism is considered a mass movement ..meaning majority....
two Islam is a Nation only in theory...you can have no nationalism with out a land based nation....Islamic countries are Theocracies
Fascism is a type of populist revolt not a Holy War...it is dictated politically not Religiously....I know you will say that Islam governs by religious law but it does not govern a land based Nation of people unless that is imposed by a dictator which is not necessarily a Fascist dictatorship....
2007-07-09
09:23:09 ·
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if you need more "evidence" or support materials you let me know.....and you are not smarter than me my jingoist friend....
2007-07-09
09:32:55 ·
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Because some nit-wit coined the phrase "islamo-fascist" and that got repeated by others.
Islam is a religion. And even with the most inflammatory estimates, less than a tiny fraction of 1% are fanatics. Compared to over 1% of the US population being felons.
Fascism is a conservative political believe that promotes a rigid authoritarian govt hierarchy with very few (if any) personal liberties.
Most religious fanatics (Islamic or otherwise) have no interest in forming any government (fascist or otherwise).
But the two terms get confused because people like to find labels they can hate, and facts rarely seem to matter.
2007-07-09 08:32:08
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answered by coragryph 7
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Islam is not "confused" with fascism.
The bush regime started getting heat because of its own fascist tendencies some years ago, and like any good little spoiled child, the first thing you do is, "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I!"
The right wingnuts are only spewing it back because it described them so well.
Islam and fascism are ideologically incompatible. The two ideologies are not able to occupy the same space in time.
Anyone who tries to put these two things together has exposed themselves as being indoctrinated by the talking heads. It's a dead give-away.
2007-07-09 08:41:58
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answered by Anonymous
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Well lets define fascism shall we:
NOUN: 1. often Fascism a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism
Substitute racism for beliefism and you pretty much got it.
Not sure what you think Islam is but it sounds pretty much like that. Iran is a Fascist state according to that definition. Syria is pretty close. Sharia Law = Fascism I would love to see a reasoned argument that says its not, I would love it but you can't do it.
Have you read their writing? Or are you just the typical liberal apologist who doesn't even know what you are apologizing for?
Well I do apologize for calling you a Liberal that is about the highest insult one can lodge so I am sorry for that if you are not one. Not sure where my arrogance was displayed in my answer? Not that I'm not arrogant because that I am as well as a jingoist. But I would love to hear the reasons Islam isn't fascist really but you don't seem to offer any concrete evidence to support your theory.
Well thanks for tryin anyway. Just because you say something is one way doesn't make it true. Fascism is not simply a populist movement, the fascism of Germany might have been but that one instance does not make a definition, the definition I gave is indeed the according-to-Hoyle definition. The goal of our little Islamic friends (not all by any stretch of the imagination but more than we care to admit) is absolutely a theocratically controlled government that suppresses all other religions and free thought that controls its citizens. They use terror and censorship to fight opposition(evidence Salman Rushdie and Danish Cartoonists) and are very belligerent and unaccepting of other religious beliefs. Iran is the model for how they see the world. You see alot of bible study groups meeting in Tehran do ya? No they killed all of them. Ask an Indian Hindu who is more of a fascist the Germans or the Pakistani Muslims. They murdered 2.5 million of them to further their "peaceful" religion.
How is a church ruled government not a dictatorship? How is Sharia law not oppressive socio-economic policy? How is the promotion of 1 religion over all other beliefs not belligerent racism-like oppression? How are death threats against those who write in opposition to your religion not censorship?
If you believe fascism has to be defined as a nation state in the global world we live in today then you lack one very important aspect of intelligence: critical thinking. Fascism in our global world can most definately be a political movement that is not limited to national boundries.
Maybe I am smarter than you. Who knows.
2007-07-09 08:48:21
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answered by Anonymous
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The Bush Administration began labeling the threat of terror "Islamo-fascism". In fairness to them, I believe they were attempting to craft a phrase that would incorporate the commonality (conservative Islamic extremists) with fascism (autocratic rule with a strong emphasis on jingoism). I think they were trying to blame these Muslims without blaming Islam. However, if the radical Christian right just happened to blame all of Islam, they thought that would okay too.
2007-07-09 08:35:42
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answered by Anonymous
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some extremely-conservative communities in Muslim countries incredibly use the religion to forward their severe agendas. To a definite degree, this sounds like certainly one of those fascism. those strikes have introduced approximately the employer of theocratic states that leads to different themes. yet totally equating the religion with fascism isn't fare. even if, particular strikes and communities are utilising the religion to forward fascist or severe agendas, it would not stick to the religion helps it. except the religion advocates those extremists suggestions, the religion must be freed from the fascist label.
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answered by ? 4
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Any religiously dominated government has elements of fascism. The government of Iran and the church's domination of the governments of Europe during the Middle Ages are examples of this. The religion isn't the problem, the religious leaders use of it to control the government is.
2007-07-09 08:35:31
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answered by redphish 5
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The introduction of the word fascism in the debate arose when America's right wing knew it had to hide its own fascist leanings... so they applied the word to Islamics.
I doubt that most people really know the origin and meaning of the word fascist.
It doesn't apply to Islam. Not saying that radical Islam is a good thing: it's not. Just the wrong word, used by the weasels of the US right wing to hide their own culpability.
2007-07-09 08:33:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Islam is not being confused by the world. They want to CONTROL people, right? They want to control you, your family, their family, their dog, and their cat. They want to control the world, the same as Hitler (a fascist), Mussolini (a fascist), the USSR leaders (too many to type), the Chinese, Japan (they still do).
Do you want them to control you, tell you what you can, and cannot do, make you pretend to like their religion, and pray to Allah, who you don't even know, and is undocumented as ever having lived? Mohammed went into a cave one day, and claimed he had a dream, had brought a few people with him, who stayed outside the cave, and after a few hours, came out and told his "witnesses" what he saw. They took his word for it. EXTREMELY simuliar to Joseph Smith, the creator of the Mormon Religion, and Latter Day Saints church. Never at anytime did he have real proof, evidence, or facts, OR witnesses who saw what he claims to have seen, and been told. In fact he changed his story, on the same subject many times, about finding gold tablets written with God's laws upon them.
Mohammed, lost his original writings, since they were stolen by another man claiming to be him, and the Quaran was re-written, re-distributed, and is now accepted as the real book. These are all facts. Look it up, if you really want to now the truth.
By the way, the exsistance, and life of Jesus Christ is in fact, documented, not just in the Bible, but other writings, without just the word of some guy. He didn't try and control people, he changed peoples minds, to break the chain of control by the Romans, and the ruling Jews of that time, when he lived. He showed people a new way of life, and showed that free thinking was right.
2007-07-09 08:51:36
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answered by xenypoo 7
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Because some members of the Islamic religion want to spread Islam all over the world, kill those that don't agree with their philosophies, and are in fact, fascists. Just the way the cookie crumbles.
2007-07-09 08:36:16
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answered by Anonymous
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I think it is because many countries with a majority of Islam also have fascism. It is like confusing Christianity with democracy.
2007-07-09 08:32:42
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answered by Take it from Toby 7
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