Do liberals believe in sex education, or immoral sexual training?

Question

The reality about sex is that it is to reproduce. And since anyone with a brain knows that children are much better off raised in a family with a Father and a Mother under one roof, it makes the most sense to teach kids that sex really needs to wait until you are married, and the consequences of not doing so should be clearly illustrated.

But instead liberal teachers talk about sex like it is just like getting a beer with a friend. That leads to rampant premarital sex followed by unplanned pregnancies, followed by either abortions or juvenile delinquents raised by a single working mom.

Why can't liberals be honest instead of encouraging kids to 'be safe' when they go engage in risky behavior.
I didn't even go into the risks of STDs (which are eliminated by committed monogimous relationships)

Kids aren't waiting because you libs are encouraging them to do it. You have been ever since the 60s when liberals took over hollywood, the media and schools.

coragryph, I think your answer encompasses the core problem I have with the liberal opinion on this matter.

Sex may be more than reproduction but libs reduce it to entertainment.

My opinions have nothing to do with religion. It is a well documented fact that kids raised in a single parent home are at a severe disadvantage. Anyone who can't agree with that needs to stay at least 500 ft from children.

Furthermore, children DO need to be taught that some actions are good and some are bad. People like you are the reason kids fail to learn the difference between right and wrong.

And lastly, I don't know what you are talking about with the government telling us what is moral or not. I am not advocating legislating sex education, but I AM against our taxes paying the salary of some lib telling my kid that he/she will not be able to stop themselves from going out and having premarital sex with all kinds of different partners, but at least theres always always abortion to fall back

"Abstinence only programs do not meet the needs of today's society. "

OMG did you really say that? I hope you don't have any influence over anyone under 18.

Lori, you need to learn more about sex in animals AND humans. First of all sex is pleasurable for animals too, but you make a connection that doesn't make sense. Humans have sex even when they are not fertile for a completely different reason than most animals. The reason is to force the man to stay with the woman long enough to for a bond that hopefully will last a lifetime, as opposed to just leaving after one round of intercourse, effectively leaving the woman a single parent.

That lesson was free BTW.

Answer 1

What kind of fantasy do you live in when you think you can characterize one's social views as being either "conservative" or "liberal." I would be willing to bet that "liberals" have many different views.

I am not quite sure why a political characterization needs to encompass one's social beliefs. I also hate it when people write "questions," believing that they are the only ones who know "reality."

Answer 2

Saving sex until marriage is of course the standard set for all youth in America today, but the fact of the matter is, most will not wait.

To write this off as a liberals v. morality situation is incredibly stupid. This is a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. You can't just show kids pictures of some scary VD's and tell them the benefits of getting married before having sex, because it quite frankly doesn't do much of anything.

With this in mind, educators and parents have the responsibility to teach safe sex, in order to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and STD's. It may be a little hypocritical, but at least kids will be more informed if they choose to have sex.

Answer 3

Do you even have any idea the origin of sex education in school? The concept of educating children about thier bodies an reproduction was first put forth by a priest in a eulogy.

The young girl who was being buried that day had committed suicide. In her suicide note she explained why she was killing herself. She had contracted a most horible disease. She was bleeding and in some pain. And the reason why she knew this was a horrible disease was because of where the blood was going from -- her private parts.

This preist thought that it would be best to educate children about the changes they would experince when going through puerty, before the woke up one morning scare because their was blood on their sheets.

Some could say that it is the parents responsiblity not the schools, and maybe in an ideal world that would be best. But unfortunately most parents are too embarrassed to explain these thing to their children.

Answer 4

I think young people need to be educated about safe sex... I don't think that sex education is to blame for premarital sex... I think it is our society's attitude toward sex that can be blamed for such things as teenage pregnancy and the spreading of STDs... sex today is portrayed in the media and elsewhere as being recreational and inconsequential... you seen couples having sex on TV all the time and sometimes the couple has a "pregnancy scare" (which usually ends in a hilarious fashion with everyone involved smiling), what you don't see are the hardships of a single teenage mother forced to drop out of school and work to support her young children or the horrific results of abortions or the emotional distress of a young mother giving up her child for adoption...

Answer 5

Promoting abstinence until one is old enough to manage potential negative consequences of intimacy gone sour is a prudent action. It is a very conservative move; the key is open communication that will help our youth determine what is risky behavior, what to do when a consequence becomes reality and how to make wise choices that involve our body and our health. Sex education (not porno pushers) allows everyone to ask pertinent questions rather than learning mistakes in a way that many impact ones life negatively for a long time.

I do not want misinformation given to my children and future generations that is generated by those who are inexperienced or worse those who are perpetrators. Therefore I am a conservative that promotes open communication about safe sex.

Sex education is important to the well being of our nation. It impacts health care, our social services and economy as well as many other aspects of American life. Knowledge is empowering, so why are so many people afraid of helping our children make wise decisions as well as allowing children to understand and develop opinions on what is moral versus immoral in his/her own opinion?

Answer 6

There are more holes in your argument than there are consonants in your username!!

And, since you've chosen to place this question in the politics section, one can only conclude that deep down inside you are a full on...died in the wool...honest to goodness LIBERAL yourself!! Why else would you want the government to spend time, effort and/or resources saving people from themselves as you're advocating??

Additionally, in every paragraph of your argument/question you you belittle your own quasi-religious viewpoint by directing pejorative comments at others...which is the antithesis of how a sincerely religious person would conduct themselves.

If you want to live a sexually repressed life...feel free. If, in your home, you choose to teach your own children "fear" and "self-hatred" and expect/hope that they will live in denial like you...that is your right. But don't try an assign a position that cuts across all socio-eco-politico lines as being Libs vs Neo-Cons...that just makes your outdated position seem all the more obtuse.

**Edit** Wow you turned your nearly legitimate question into quite a little rant pretty quickly didn't you??

When you say, "Kids aren't waiting because you libs are encouraging them to do it." I have to laugh AT you.

Despite a clear lack of cogency on your part... your vocabulary and syntax could fool someone into thinking they were dealing w/ a reasonably balanced or educated person. But, when you make silly... anachronistic statements like that you make yourself a target for ridicule.

You'll deny it OF COURSE...or try to re-spin it in a different way...but what you're saying is that pre-martial sex...which has been around longer than the institution of marriage itself...is caused by politicians...and that it didn't exist prior to the 1960's...which is ludicrous.

And, again I have to laugh. That is just plain...old-fashion ignorance on your part.

You clearly have an ax to grind on this subject...take it up w/ the school board...or move to (what you consider to be) a less liberal area. But please stop trying to make an argument w/ this type of silliness...you're only digging yourself in a deeper (dumber) hole every time you try to provide additional details.

Answer 7

vcxzzxcvvcxzzxcv said "I didn't even go into the risks of STDs (which are eliminated by committed monogimous relationships)"

erm....monogomous relationships do not preculde the chance of contracting any diseases, although the risk is reduced.

Also, sex is not for reproduction only. However, since this is your view you must derive no pleasure from the act, which means that you have some emotional problems that you need to resolve. There should be some reputable sex therapists in your city; you might make an appointment with one.

Answer 8

Talking about sex doesn't cause sex to run rampant like wildfires! Weren't you a kid with hormones once?? What got you interested in sex. I doubt it was a teacher telling you about using condoms and getting itchy scabs on your dick. Sitting in sex ed did not want me to have sex AT ALL! First off, the teacher was old and gross - just thinking about sex in the same room as her was a turn off. And then learning about all the STDs. GROSS! In fact, I didn't have sex with my boy friend for like a month after that!

Personally, I believe that molars, values, and proper procedures about sex should be taught at home by parents. But oh well.

Answer 9

lol, I can tell you are no liberal by how uninformed you are.

we teach our children to wait.. we tell them to wait until they are ready and don't teach them that sex is something dirty as religions do.. just that it is to be respected. we also realize (rather than staying in denial) that most kids aren't going to wait very long.. so, when they do decide they are ready to have sex.. we want them to be educated on how to have sex safely so as to not spread disease or find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy.. or don't you think preventing the spread of disease and lowering the rate of abortions is a good thing?

now I'm all for teaching abstinence along with sex ed. actually my sex ed. course I had way back in the 7th grade did just that.. telling you it was the only way to be certain and completely safe but should you choose not to be abstinent.. here is how to be safe... but to tell them they MUST be absitent and trying to scare them into it just doesn't work.


If you don't think your little snuggums is flashing her boobs and fooling around when she's "at the movies" then you are a fool.

Answer 10

Excuuuse me, but sex is only for reproduction in animals, humans are also able to receive pleasure from it, otherwise if it was just for reporduction you would only be able to have sex when you were fertile, like animals.

If kids want to have sex they are going to, so we need to teach them to be wise about it, they need to be taught about birth control, using protection against STDs. I would prefer that my kids be taught to make the right decisions to protect themselves and be able to talk to me than sneak around behind my back because I push abstinence.

Abstinence is not realistic, the only way to make abstinence work is to bring back the chastity belt, but then someone would learn to pick the lock and post it on the internet.

And I bet you only believe in man on top. OMG, this statement just proves you are nuts "force the man to stay with the woman long enough to for a bond that hopefully will last a lifetime, as opposed to just leaving after one round of intercourse, effectively leaving the woman a single parent." Obviously i know a lot more about sex than you do, get your head out of the sand.

Answer 11

Back in 1962, before there was all of this us-them politics, I lived in Texas a real bible belt state. When I left home at 17 years of age to join the service, approx. half of my classmates were married, before the baby came. When I came home 2 years latter, half of those were divorced and remarried. So, point is this has been going on for before my time and will continue to do so till the end of time. Get over it and deal with it.