I mean they're trying to make the gullible think that Dems. want to start a sort of Soviet Union. They say places like UK and Australia are "socialist", as if an EU style democracy with a few more more social programs, fewer crimes, prisoners, and lawsuits, and with populations that vote and feel quite content and free in their pursuit of happiness, press, speech, etc. is something terrible.
I looks like to me the R's want a one-party government with insider trading, endless wars to profit from, surveillance on the population, throw dissenters in jail, and government intrusion into people's private affairs.
2007-07-09
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to Ryan F;
Ha! How about
"Cars burning on the streets of NY, Miami, LA, ATL, Chi, DC, Philly, etc....
Medical professionals making decisions that aren't always in patients' best interests.
And terrorist conspiracies by citizens or visitors?
Ask the Europeans if they're content.
2007-07-09
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The problem with conservatives is they don’t know the meaning of socialism.. Or the bill of rights where it states very clearly in the preamble “promote the general Welfare”. The founding fathers realized there are certain obligations the government has to it’s people... Those obligations can be seen as “Socialism” but as long the constitution stays in tact there will never be a communistic type government... and it’s the PEOPLE that decide what obligations should be under the realm of government. Socialized Medicine: it is fully constitutional as long as the people want it... Conservatives are funny in that they want more social oversight (Which is far more like communism) but say they want less... I don’t think they know what they want.... they just know how to whine really loud...
2007-07-09 06:59:01
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answered by Rusty J 2
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If you believe that the government should control specific industries, you are a "socialist." The UK has "socialized" health care = socialism, at least to a degree. The real question is why don't you like being called a "socialist?" A majority of voters in Europe think socialism is a GOOD THING. Now, if the rhetoric referred to Democrats as "Communisits" or "Nazis," perhaps you would have a more valid argument.
Also, I don't think you have any place accusing the "right wing" of using "scare tactics" when you present such a biased, unflattering picture of what "Republicans want."
Personally, I am sick and tired of all the labeling on both sides!
2007-07-09 13:44:03
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I believe it was DeToqueville who said, in his book , Democracy in America," written after his travels through the newly-created United States that the American experiment in democracy would last only as long as it took the people to discover that they could vote themselves into the public treasury.
Well, the people have since discovered that, and I believe that a majority of them have no self-restraint or moral governor that would cause them to stop short of voting in socialism or even communism if they controlled both houses of Congress with veto-proof majorities and also controlled the White House for good measure.
The Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, authorizing the creation of the Federal income tax, removed any limit that might have been argued to exist on the Federal government's taxing power. State constitutions typically contain uniformity of taxation restrictions that inhibit the ability of state governments to allocate the burden of taxation mostly to higher-income taxpayers on a graduated rather than proportional basis. Further, since the Sixteenth Amendment was ratified in 1913, later than either the Fifth or Fourteenth Amendments, each of which contains a due process clause that could perhaps have been analogized to state constitutional uniformity of taxation provisions, it would most likely be held to control in the event of any perceived conflict between the Fifth or Fourteenth Amendment, on the one hand, and the Sixteenth Amendment, on the other.
What that means is that marginal Federal income tax rates are unlimited by any constitutional restriction. They can climb to 100% with nothing to stop them or even slow them down.
When liberals complain about the wealthy failing to pay their "fair share" of taxes, they never have or offer an answer to the very fair questions, "What is the 'fair share' of the wealthy? By what principle can it be identified or by what calculation can it be determined?"
The only answer that could truthfullhy be given, but is never offered, is that the "fair share" of any of us, whether wealthy, poor, or middle class, is whatever "feels right" to a sufficient majority of our fellow citizens at any point in time and is subject to change from time to time without notice. Not much to hang your hat on there.
2007-07-09 14:13:56
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"EU style democracy with a few more more social programs, fewer crimes, prisoners, and lawsuits, and with populations that vote and feel quite content and free in their pursuit of happiness, press, speech, etc. is something terrible."?
Cars burning on the streets of France... Medical professionals making car bombs in London... citizens involved in terroristic conspiracies...
Doesn't sound like a content population to me...
Alex: Bush isn't actually from Texas and Texas is currently operating with something like a 4 billion dollar budget surplus... if you ask me, Washington could use a little bit more "Texas spending"...
2007-07-09 13:39:09
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I think you need to look up "Socialism"
Definition:
1. political system of communal ownership: a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to **equity and fairness** rather than market principles
Asteriks added....
The adjective socialistic means:
Meaning : advocating or following the socialist principles
Synonym: socialist
Antonym: capitalistic
"It's all about "fairness," says Hillary. And "fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government policies."
2007-07-09 13:43:48
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The Dem party is closer to socialism now than at any time in our political history. More reliance on Government, less incentive to work for a living, more programs, higher taxes.
Yep, sounds like socialism to me
2007-07-09 13:39:59
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It isn't the right-wing scare tactics that has me convinced. It's the answers given here by ultra left liberals. If you do not think their ideas are consistent with Socialism then you must not be paying attention. I think there is an alarming number of people here that want Socialism for the US and think it's a good thing. I've met people in real life that think the same thing.
2007-07-09 13:40:41
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answered by smellyfoot ™ 7
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I've never thought that pointing out the obvious was meant to be a "scare tactic". It's called telling the truth.
2007-07-09 13:39:48
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Such is life when your country is run by Texans notably the Bush family anyone who isn't with them is a evil socialist, Nazi, or mass murder. Basically it seems their goal is to burn the bill of rights and become big brother and the Democrats while not necessarily right either don't have that goal just yet
2007-07-09 13:43:14
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When the Dem's all know how to spend OUR money better the we do, that is SOCIALISM.
When the Dem's want the government to provide heath care, that is SOCIALISM
With these two points (and they are democrat points) That makes the Dem's SOCIALISTS.
2007-07-09 13:43:47
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answered by Anonymous
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