I'm writing a biography on how "straight" I've become for my Living Christian support group. I can't write "I've never slept with a woman" because I've told them that I have. Only Pastor Dan and my sponsor know that I was gay. If they find out I still am they will tell Mom and Dad. How many woman can I realistically I say I slept with (22 yrs old)?
2007-07-09 06:34:08 · 20 answers · asked by Anthony 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Gosh there are really that many women sleeping with the men? 5-10 geeze. Thats not very christian. I think you girls need to join our group.
2007-07-09 06:45:30 · update #1
Come clean - if they don't love you for who you are then they don't really love you.
2007-07-09 06:42:26 · answer #1 · answered by Heather 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
5
2007-07-09 14:52:11 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
6+
2007-07-09 13:37:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
8
2007-07-09 13:36:32 · answer #4 · answered by QTforlife 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Realistically, the average 22 year old male has slept with anywhere between 5 to 10 women.
2007-07-09 13:38:55 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
You lie about being gay and now you want other to help you lie about sleeping with women. How about just getting out of the group until you learn what it means when Jesus said, "I am the way, and the TRUTH and the life;.." The Christian religion is not based on lies.
2007-07-09 13:48:47 · answer #6 · answered by Jim B 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
If you're going to lie about your fornication why not lie big? Tell them you have slept with 30 women. Then wink at some married men to make them wonder about their wives.
2007-07-09 13:44:13 · answer #7 · answered by Peter D 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Wait a minute. You're 22 years old and allowing these nutcases to put you through this??
If you're gay, you're gay. So go live your life as a gay person instead of wasting your time like this and suffering mentally from this ridiculous fundamentalist christian crap. Get up, stand up, and be yourself. There isn't anything wrong with you. Being gay or straight is no different than being left-handed or right-handed.
You're also NOT 16 years old anymore, that Mom and Dad should have any say in your life at all whatsoever. Frankly, it's none of their business at all and you have absolutely NO obligation to live your life according to their rules.
If you were underage, I'd feel really sorry for you and hope you're going to hit age 18 soon so you can get out of that situation. But you're 22, there isn't any reason for you to be subjecting yourself to this crap. Get out of there.
Just in case you didn't know this, I'll tell you how the law in the Jewish Torah against men laying with other men came about. I'm Jewish, and I've studied this in depth.
Homosexuality was accepted before that law came into being. It was understood that some people are born homosexual, and some were born heterosexual. The only thing was, if a man was born homosexual he still had the obligation to produce children - because the Israelites were not that big of a community and everyone had to do their part, regardless, to keep it growing.
There was no penalty for being homosexual, no law against it, and it was absolutely accepted as being just another way the Creator created human beings.
At that time there were many pagan temples in the middle east, many of which had Temple Prostititutes, both male and female.
These Temple Prostitutes came into the Jewish Temple as well. They were called the Qedoshim. They were male. What they did was teach men that all their sins would be forgiven through having sex with them.
This was a common religious practice back then in the old pagan religions.
However, the Qedoshim made a mistake when they went to the Jewish Temple - even though they were actually accepted there for a very short time as there are accounts of the women in the Women's Court actually weaving clothing for them.
However, they began to infringe on the Jewish priests's business, and this is when the tolerance levels for the Qedoshim went WAY down.
They were thrown out of the Temple, and the law against men laying with other men as an abomination was instituted at that time.
This law was on the grounds of IDOLATRY, not homosexuality. It was considered Idolatry for the Qedoshim to forgive sins through them, rather than through the God of the Israelites at the Temple through the grain and animal sacrifices.
THAT was the crime, IDOLATRY. Not homosexuality itself. And that is why the law came into being against men laying with other men.
IT ONLY APPLIED TO JEWISH MEN, NOT NON-JEWS. Here is where you get in trouble because when the Church stole the Jewish Torah and turned it into the Old Testament and stuck it on their New Testament, they told everyone that all the laws in the Old Testament had applied to them, but through Jesus Christ these laws no longer apply to them.
This was an outright lie. No laws in the Jewish Torah EVER applied to non-Jews EXCEPT the 7 Universal Laws, otherwise known as the 7 Noahide Laws, 5 of which were found in the Ten Commandments, and the other 2 found elsewhere in the Torah. Those laws were (and are, as they are still in effect for non-Jews):
1. Do not murder
2. Do not steal
3. Do not curse God
4. Do not commit adultery
5. Do not commit idolatry (worshipping any other gods, nor putting anything in front of God to have to go through to get to God)
6. Do not tear a limb from a live animal to eat (apparently this was done at that time - this law means no cruelty to animals)
7. Do establish courts of law for a fair and just society
Note that Do Not Commit Adultery doesn't mean homosexuality. The definition of Adultery by Jewish law means a married Jewish man who has sex with a married Jewish woman. If he has sex with an UNMARRIED woman, it was NOT considered to be adultery.
However, if a married Jewish woman had sex with either an unmarried OR a married man, it was adultery. A bit of a double standard there.
Furthermore, the law against JEWISH men laying with other men never applied to women. There is no punishment given for women who lay with other women whatsoever. It was considered rather immodest, but it was not an act punishable by any law. It still isn't.
Unfortunately so many Jews today are ignorant about how this law came about, and over the centuries since Christianity has been around, have absorbed the ignorance and intolerance of Christianity towards homosexuals and now are as intolerant and hateful as so many Christians are because they've never had any clue about why or how that law came into being.
Many Rabbis don't even know about this. When a person studies to become a Rabbi, they specialize in two or three specific areas and many never even learn about this in their first place. However, many Rabbis DO know about how this law came about - getting them to admit it or talk about it is another thing though. They don't want to admit that there were at one time male Temple prostitutes that were actually allowed for a short while in the Temple. But it's all written down right there in the Talmud and other books of Jewish Oral Torah, for anyone to see, which is how I first learned about it.
I hope this information helps you to see past the ignorance you're being subjected to, and will help you somehow.
2007-07-09 14:06:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
First off grow some balls and tell them. Why do you want to go on pretending you are something you are not? You are 22 years old also? Come on man. You are in the prime of your short life. DO NOT WASTE IT. IF they don't accept you for who you are ,screw them. Its their loss. It would be a tragedy if you never said anything, then it would be your loss.
2007-07-09 13:38:34 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 5⤊ 0⤋
I like that you're asking us to help you perpetuate a lie to appease your Living Christian support group. So much for *that* commandment...
2007-07-09 15:55:34 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
So you wanna lie? Maybe you shouldn't be going to a Christian support group.
2007-07-09 13:37:17 · answer #11 · answered by Black Cat 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋