Are logic fallacies inherently fallacious?

Question

Logic fallacies are intellectual tools to help identify "bad thinking", ideas or thoughts that have inherit flaws which can draw people to irrelevant or poor conclusions.

The infinite monkey theorem would seem to dictate that even the most improbable event can be true with enough iterations. If this is true, then is it possible that some event that we would deem logically fallacious may eventually become true ?

Setting cheese in trap, waiting for pop and squeak

Answer 1

As you stated in your question, the infinite monkey theorem deals with improbable situations not impossible situations. In the case of addition with the set of real numbers 2 + 2 = 5 is always false. Logic doesn't happen by chance, it follows rules just as addition follows rules.

Answer 2

It almost does not seem worth throwing my two cents in at this point because there are already some outstanding answers, but the answer to your question is yes, logical fallacies are inherently fallacious; not only is this because falseness is implicit to the definition of logical fallacy, but also because a logical fallacy is a device to be utilized in argumentation to identify flaws in a chain of logic.

Answer 3

It appears to me that you are referring to cultural logic.
In the cultural context, logic fallacies can be fallacious.
If the culture continuously builds off its past foundation
without considering the present application of the past
foundation then the logic will continuously be limited
to a narrow path of logic. Sometimes the foundation
itself requires refinement or at the least contingency
classifications for remaining "backward compatible"
in a manner of speaking. It is possible that some event
that we deem logically fallacious may eventually become
true, and this is often the trademark of people from our
history who we have labelled as great thinkers who
were ahead of their time.

Answer 4

Religions combined do seem to form one giant logic fallacy. I was born and raised a Christian but in my teens started to ask questions about other religions. Especially since everything I'd heard from fellow Christians about other religions had all been negative. So I sought out people from other religions to ask them about their religion. They told me why they thought their religion was the one true religion and why my religion was so wrong. What really stood out to me was how right these people thought they were about their religion and how zealous they were about deriding every other religion I mentioned when I was comparing their religion to other religions. This made me ask the question how did all these religions come about? Why are there so many religions? People have told me that these other religions have come about because humankind strayed from God and then made up their own interpretation of who they thought God is and what he expects from human beings. The other explanation is that humankind made up myths, legends, stories etc theorizing about creation, reasons for things that happen etc. If just one of these religions could offer some material evidence to prove that gods or a God exists, that miracles happen and proof for other supernatural things that happen that could be duplicated and confirmed scientifically then I might actually begin to believe in one of them. Until then all religion seems to me to be one giant fallacy of logic and I will remain an atheist. What I still cannot get over is the number of religious people who log onto yahoo answers and write things like ... Christians why do you believe ... Muslims why do you believe ... Buddhists why do you believe ... Hindus why do you believe ... etc etc and then start on with some ridiculous theological argument which they believe from their religion's standpoint is perfectly logical and try to prove the belief of the other religion false. From a non-believers point of view they need to understand that theirs is just as false as the other religious belief they are trying to disprove. If anyone ever wants to prove the fallacy of logic that is religion then keep making these ridiculous theological arguments. It only continues to prove to all rationalists that religion is a fallacy of logic.

Answer 5

Events aren't logically fallacious, arguments are. That's the entire point of logic. It defines a ruleset for good form, it's completely different from the subject matter. I could easily create any number of fallacious arguments concerning things that are true.

Answer 6

I think you got it. All those logical fallacies are dividing us, not too logical, I would say. I would think that humanity needs a unifying field theory. I really do believe that we can all agree, enough to get along. Can you imagine someone saying, "That's not science." If science doesn't relate to everything then it's half brained and half dead in a way. A scientist needs broad knowledge as well as specific. That's how we expect him to be effective. Intuition and imagination is necessary in science and that means an orpn mind and understanding, of the understander, of himself. The flaw can be in himself and excluding some of the ten branches of knowledge used in the library. Ir-reality is absolutely necessary in understanding reality. Mythology is helpful in understanding man. Imagination to get out of reality and seeing where 'reality' can be added to. 26 letters, words, are not enough in 'knowing', sensing is necessary in common sense and nonsense is what science sees to believe in, no feeling. Love has to be in the formulae. Is it sensible to give us nuclear energy and a bomb before we are capable of using nuclear energy properly? The letter kills and so can the formulae if it doesn't include people. People have to be worked on first and then we can work on something else. Fortunately that's becoming clear. People are not "quantifiable" so we are working on the easy questions first, but when do we get old enough to work on the tough questions? After we give a child a bomb or before?

Answer 7

Yes, logic fallacies are inherently fallacious. They occur where is lack of knowledge, 'cause logic is based on knowledge. Logic is a tool itself, and that tool may be used in wrong way.
So, yes, it is possible, and there's only one thing to do - believe, if we cannot prove with logic.

Answer 8

If we've lived a while we've watched countless logicially fallacious events become true in almost every avenue of human endeavor.

Logic doesn't appear to bear a strong relationship with truth. It mainly just relates to logic, and discourse.

Answer 9

"You mean my entire fallacy is all wrong?"

Marshall McLuhan