smoking ban?

Question

Heres a thought
stop selling them if you really mean it
but hey aint gonna happen
too much revenue
so non smokers we pay more tax than u

Answer 1

It's just another way for the government to try to exert some control over you. Seriously, there was no problem before. If you didn't like smoke, go to some place that doesn't allow it. If you do, go to some place that allows it. What's so difficult about this? Instead, people feel like they need the government to think for them by banning it completely and instead hurt small business owners in their selfish ignorance.

Answer 2

I have been a smoker for over 20yrs,but i do agree in part to
some of the smoking ban.I believe non-smokers do have the right to clean air,just as i believe a smoker has the right to smoke.
But the government has gone way to far with its legistation on the smoking ban,and at the end of the day there will be more losers than winners.
Here's some true facts for none smokers to get there heads round,they are true not ignorant rantings.

1. Smoking does NOT cause any form of cancer,it never has and never will, it is however a known trigger.

2. You ,me and every person on the planet has cancer, we are all born with cancerous cells in our system.

3. The cancer lays dormant within your body until something triggers it,then it becomes the cancers we are all aware of.

4. My own mother was diagnosed and treated for throat cancer 2yrs ago,she has never smoked does not frequent
places with smokers.She eats healthy and walks 10 miles aday,yet she still got throat cancer.

5. If only 10% of smokers give up in the next year,the government will lose millions of pounds.Tax will be put up around the board so non smokers will suffer more financially
than before.

I believe that the ban in public places is right,but the government has classed places public when they are not.
A shopping centre,Library etc is public as is council buildings
and similar buildings.
A pub,club or a members only social club etc are private so should not come under the ban but they do.
Owners of such places are being forced to abide by a new legistation that is actually illegal,under the human rights laws that already exist.
Every weekend innocent people are beaten,stabbed and some even killed due to alcohol abuse.Yet know one bats an eyelid at this and these occurances are in the thousands.

So non-smokers get ready for taxes to hit your wage packets,and small bussiness to close.

And for the smokers,just as there was a no smoking lobby who put all this smoking ban in place.
There is a smoking lobby who are getting ready to take the government to the european court of human rights.
And they could win as they are challenging our government on the fact that laws already in existance have been broken.

Answer 3

Karma
before the smoking ban i did not know of one pub that had a no smoking policy

I find it funny the amount of English people on here that are incensed by the smoking ban. Have you not noticed that the majority of Irish and Scottish people that come on here and who have experienced the ban first hand for a while now are saying positive things about it.
When i walk through cities or town centres now the place feels alive as there is people sitting outside bars and cafes enjoying a drink and chatting, in clubs you can now go out for fresh air and you will end up chatting to loads more people than you would have normally.
What is the major problem, all you have to do is walk a few feet if you want a cigarette

Answer 4

It would seem that if smoking in a public place is illegal & if you must pay more tax for a pack or carton of cigarettes, then why not just ban the sale of such a harmful product? The added tax was to pay for the cost of medical care needed by those who smoke, thus, they are in essence, paying for their own medical bills, right? From what I read on here no one but smokers get cancer, right? No! I know of people who have never smoked in thier lives, never been around smokers, yet have had lung cancer. I guess that one can make the medical records read however is to the advantage of those who want to control the habits of others. I fully understand that for some, smoking really bothers them, but in the city I live in, many places put in seperate rooms for smokers that were totally enclosed/seperate ventulation systems & double doors that would allow no smoke to enter the non smoking area of the restaurant. Not good enough! Total ban. Now they are talking about not allowing you to smoke in your own car if you have children in the car!
If smoking is so terrible, why are cigarettes allowed to be sold? This seems like nonsense to me. Outlaw the product, get it out of the stores & fine anyone selling this terrible menace to society! Stop making a joke out of trying to stop smoking!

Answer 5

Karma - you got it right.

If the owner of a business wants to set his own rules that apply to everyone he should be able to. Some restaurants require a man to wear a tie, or ban women in slacks, some do not allow children. If a person doesn't like the rule they can go elsewhere. Some restaurants have dress codes for their employees, ie. the Playboy bunnies, those who object can work elsewhere.

However the nannies in the government have decided that the people are too stupid to decide for themselves. If there are 2 restaurants, side-by-side, and one owner posts a sign saying "No Smoking" and the other posts a sign saying "Smoking Allowed", then are people too stupid to decide which one they will enter? The nannies say they are too stupid.

A person applying for a job is also considered too stupid to choose which restaurant to work at. The nannies say they are taking our freedoms away for our own good, because smoking is vile and causes disease. But they won't ban the sale of tobacco because of the tax revenues.

Left to their own, business owners would ban smoking if their customers stopped coming or if they could not hire enough smokers. Pure capitalist free market forces would then make business after business become smoke free by free choice. Those few businesses that catered to smokers would do so by free choice and would dwindle as the number of their customers dwindled. Fewer people smoke every year.

However the nannies cannot allow freedom or the market to gradually work, they have to impose their will on the smokers, who should have no rights because they smoke and will use tax money when they are sick.

Big Brother is watching. ["1984" by George Orwell]

Answer 6

Which is good since you are going to be filling up the hospitals with cancer patients, COPDers, heart patients, and all the others that are the out come of smoking. Unfortunately all of you smoker are paying $35.00 and up for a carton of cigarettes and some have no money left over to pay the hospitals and the tax payers have to pick up the bill by paying increased hospital bills when they go in and through taxes with indigent programs.

Answer 7

its getting crazy now. we as smokers will have no rights and we pay taxes too and yes your right we pay even more with us buying smokes if we all quit the rest of the public would have to pay heavier taxes wouldn't they scream then.

I would like to see smoking bars and restuarants just for smokers then,. if they want to have non smoking establishments thats fine but we should have a choice where to spend our money and i would want a bar or restaurant just for smokers then. fair is fair. don't segregate us and put us out on the street we have rights too.

so we should have smokers coffee shops restaurants etc.. just as the non smokers have a choice. and hire only smoking staff so no one complains they dont' like the smell of smoke. problem solved.

Answer 8

Non smokers pay no money / tax for cigarettes. Smokers are penalized heavily. They pay high price, heavy tax and pay more on their medical bills. All that they gain is lower Income Tax, since they die earlier than you and me (non-smokers). We don't pay anything for passive smoking. Have mercy for the poor smokers.

Answer 9

My dad died last month. He chain-smoke himself to death and always refused to accept the views of doctors who have looked inside the lungs of countless smokers who died young. He always thought doctors were "making it up" about the health risks. My mother will not be far behind him. She has COPD and her brother died of lung cancer, and her father didn't live to draw his pension either. She also describes smoking as one of her few "pleasures." I must admit, when I hear her coughing incessantly and hear all that sputum rattling around, her voice rasping like Jack Duckworth, then I am satisfied she sounds like she is enjoying it!

You will not pay enough tax and excise duties in your life time to meet the cost of chemotherapy, oncologists etc. The revenue gained from smoking in the UK is more than eaten up by the cost to the NHS smokers create, and the cost of paying poorly smokers state benefits.

Answer 10

I believed that democracy was about giving people a right to choose and a vote on their personal freedom,everybody has a personal right to choose their way of living and civil liberties should not be infringe.Who or whom has any right to take away that choice,no-one,but it seems to me that we are now being made to choose and it stinks of a dictatorship.Why is this so-called democratic country telling us ,and,forcing us to choose,because we all pay a high amount of tax on our choices and to take that away would be detrimental to the treasury,so they carry on making us pay for the things we enjoy doing but tell us where and when we can do it..........hhhmm
sounds fair doesn't it.
people will carry on doing what they want all the while they can afford it and like smoking and drinking and owning a car they are taxed so high that people will want their money's worth,if you smoke and you have paid your taxes then you should be entitled to care or treatment when a problem manifests.moral is.WE PAY FOR IT SO WE WILL CARRY ON DOING IT,AND IF THE n.h.s. IS CASH STRAPPED OR REFUSING TO DEAL WITH A PROBLEM WHICH IS SELF INFLICTED THEN touff,YOU'VE HAD MY MONEY AND ARE STILL GETTING IT,shut up and treat me.