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the procedure to extract nitro glicerine from (nitro glicerin)soaps or artificial fertilizer

2007-07-08 06:33:21 · 2 answers · asked by Nestor 1 in Science & Mathematics Chemistry

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The glycerin found in glycerin soap is not the same thing as nitro glycerin. It is a sugar alcohol that is water soluble and a main component of lipids. Its used as a lubricant in personal care products like soaps and shave gels and sometimes it is used instead of sorbitol in foods since it 60% as sweet as sucrose.

In order to get nitro glycerin you have to nitrate the glycerin.

2007-07-08 06:43:07 · answer #1 · answered by Lady Geologist 7 · 0 0

(This is not my recipe, my beest friend sent me this one time when i was making soap and figured out there was glycerin in soap) I have no idea if it works, but it should.



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Making Nitroglycerin (an actual method)
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by: Simon
3-18-2004

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Well, this is my first text file. I am not a computer user, but luckily I have plenty
of typing experience on my IBM Typewritter. Let me first explain exactly why I am writing this;
I am visiting my relatives here in California, I am from Texas. I made mention of the fact that
I know how to make Nitroglycerin to one of my cousins, he wanted to know how. So he asked me to
get on his computer, and write it down so he could submit it on the internet.

He showed me a few things on the computer that he had on how to make nitroglycerin,
"the anarchist cookbook" he says. Well, that's not the real way. I am from Texas, and I did
grow up knowing how to make Nitroglycerin, and it is actually very simple. I'm no chemist, and
I can do it. Of course I don't go doing bad things with it, it is quite useful when tearing
down an old house, or shed. I usually use my nitroglycerin batches for blasting large rocks out
of the ground when I am digging large holes by hand (lots of rocks in Texas).

Anyway, so here is how to make Nitroglycerin.

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Ok, now let me tell you first off that I have never had a nitroglycerin reaction go
wrong. I feel totally safe when making nitroglycerin, there really is nothing dangerous about
doing this, as long as you use some Common Sense in safety. Like not shaking liquids.

This stuff was first made in the middle of the 1800s. That says alot if you consider
the very simple, rough materials and equipment that they had at the time. Anyone who has not
been dropped on their head can easily become a master at this. Just as long as you follow the
directions, nothing can really go wrong.


Ok, first a list of things that you're going to need:


--Lots of Ice
--Nitric Acid (Concentrated)
--Sulfuric Acid (Concentrated)
--Glycerin (with NO water)
--Bucket of Water
--Styrofoam Container (the ones for beer)
--Pint Sized Glass Flask
--A 2000mL Seperatory Funnel (easy to come by in catalogs)
--Distilled Water
--Thermometer


First, keep the bucket of water close, if something does go wrong, you can drown it out
with water. This will not happen, as long as you are not a complete dumbass.

You must remember that you CAN NOT have glycerin that has water in it. You must have
actual glycerin. Find a chemical supplier that supplies pure glycerin.

Note that you are constantly using the seperatory funnel. After you use it once, clean
it, then use it again 20 minutes later. You are going to have to clean it and use it about 3
times.

Fill the Styrofoam Container half way full of Ice. This container will be used to cool
your flask with all the chemicals in it. The chemicals being cold is 100% REQUIRED. If the
ingredients are not cold when mixed, other reactions can take place, and your mixture could
explode. This is easily avoided by doing what I just said: fill the Styrofoam Container half
way full of Ice.

Put your Nitric Acid and Sulfuric Acid in the freezer for a while before mixing them
in the flask. That way you do not have to sit around and wait for them to get cold. Burry your
glass flask in the ice (ice bath), pour in 200mL concentrated sulfuric acid, and 100mL of
concentrated nitric acid, they are mixed together by swirling the container a bit, or mixing
with a glass rod, or the thermometer. This mixing will warm them up a bit, but they will
quickly cool in the ice bath. When the temperature of the acids is 40F, the glycerin can be
added. 50mL of glycerin is measured out, and added to the Nitric Acid and Sulfuric Acid
mixture 5mL at a time. The best way to do this is to run the small amounts of glycerin down
the inside of the glass, so it gradually pours into the acids. The glass flask is tilted at an
angle, and turned like a concrete mixer (using your hands) while you pour the glycerin in. DO
NOT pour the glycerin into the acids all at once, or even in 5mL globules. You must slowly add
it to the acid mixtures. If the glycerin builds up in one spot, a runaway reaction can occour,
so make sure to pour it in very slowly as I stated above. Be Gentle.

Do this until you have added all the glycerin. It takes about 25 minutes, adding ten
portions of glycerin of about 5mL each. The temperature of the acids and glycerin inside the
flask should be watched closely. It should not be allowed to rise above 50F. If it gets too
close to this temperature, the adding of glycerin should stop immidiatly, and the mixing
continued with the flask nestled in the ice bath until the temperature drops back down to
around 40F.

Under NO circumstances may it be thought that you can add the nitric acid, sulfuric
acid, and glycerin at the same time. To add all three chemicals at once will result in a sure
death I am assuming. I really don't know what would happen, I just know that it would be very
bad. (My lack in knowledge of this is because I have never been stupid enough to actually do
it).

When all the glycerin has been added, a milky colored solution will be formed with
little globules of pure nitroglycerin throughout the mixture. After the glycerin has been
added, the mix can be allowed to warm up a bit. It can be taken out of it's ice bath, and
allowed to rise around the 50s F. You should stir occasionally during this time.

About 25 minutes after the last bit of glycerin has been added, you can consider the
reaction to be done. Now is time for the purification process.

First, get a little over quart of cold distilled water, and put it in a 2000mL
seperatory funnel. Pour your nitroglycerin batch into the seperatory funnel with the water. Let
it sit for a bit, the bottom Oil type layer is the nitroglycerin. A small amount of the
nitroglycerin stays floating at the top of the water, just splash the water around the small
droplets of nitroglycerin with a glass stirring rod, and they will sink to the bottom. When all
of the Nitroglycerin has seperated from the acid and water, you can release the stopcock on the
bottom of the sep funnel, and drain out the nitroglycerin into a glass container. You must NOT
allow any of the other top layer into the jar with the nitroglycerin, because the entire point
is to seperate the nitroglycerin from the acids.

The seperated nitroglycerin is added to a cup of cold distilled water, and allowed to
sit for a little while. The water will soak up more acid from the nitroglycerin, that is the
point of mixing all of this with water: to seperate the acids away from the nitroglycerin. It
is good to cause the nitro to flow around on the bottom of its new container every once in a
while, so that it is not the same old surface exposed to the water all the time. This water
bath should take no more than about an hour.

pour the nitroglycerin/distilled water back into the sep funnel, and seperate the
bottom Nitroglycerin layer from the water/acid layer. Again, be sure to only allow the
nitroglycerin to drain.

Take 10 grams of Arm & Hammer, and add it to a cup of distilled water in the sep
funnel, mixing it until it is totally dissolved (this is your bicarb solution). The
nitroglycerin still has some acid left in it, and this solution will help pull all of it out.
If there is still acid left in the nitroglycerin, the nitroglycerin will not keep, it will
break down. If you skip any of these purification steps, you will have a crappy nitroglycerin
that will probably not explode. Add the nitroglycerin to the bicarb solution.

When the nitroglycerin is added to the solution, it sinks to the bottom. It should
look milky and oily. It will probably cause the bicarb solution to bubble a bit, maybe some
fizzing. You need to rotate the sep funnel, so that the nitroglycerin rolls around on the
bottom of the container exposing fresh surfaces to the bicarb solution. Tilt it at about a 45
degree angle to do this, it's better because then more nitroglycerin gets exposed to the
bicarb solution. Be gentle with every stirring technique you use. Do not use any rod to stir
the mixture, You do not want to cause friction. With the nitroglycerin in the position that it
is in, you can cause seriously large explsions from causing friction. Soft swirling may be
used. Spend at least a couple of hours on this step. It should be constantly attended,
stirred, swirrled, etc.

At the end of the bicarb treatment, the nitroglycerin still looks the same, it still
looks milky. This is from the water caught in the nitroglycerin, and it should be removed for
the nitroglycerin to be deemed pure. It will cause problems with detonating the nitro if it is
not removed.

To remove the water completely, you need to get some hot water in a container, and
dissolve as much table salt as you can in it. Shake it as much as you can to dissolve as much
salt as you possibly can in the hot water. When the water cools down, the clear colored
saturated salt solution (no crystals of salt floating around) is poured off of the excess salt
that is sitting on the bottom of the container. Put it in a suitable container.The
nitroglycerin can now be put seperated in the seperatory funnel just as before. You then put
the nitroglycerin into contact with the salt solution. There should be about two volumes of
salt solution added to one volume of nitroglycerin. After sitting together for a few hours, the
salt will get all the water out of the nitroglycerin, resulting in a Clear product.

The yield of nitroglycerin is about 50mL. This is not alot of nitroglycerin, but enough to
have some fun with.

Well, that's how to do it!

2007-07-08 06:54:29 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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