What is it with socialists and their 'universal healthcare' schemes?

Question

Socialist medicine is the wrong prescription for US healthcare. And yet, here were have flaming socialist leftwingers trying to drag our system down into their collectivist gutter.

40 million uninsured? So big deal? There's also a guy at the blackjack table in Las Vegas who got dealt two face cards and didn't double down. Should we make a government agency follow him around make his choices for him?

honmani: yes, I'm glad you brought up Medicare and Socialist Security....those need to be abolished, too

Answer 1

Socialism is the greatest evil ever set upon mankind, it destroys all it touches, but they do have a great PR plan.

Really it all boils down to a couple of simple beliefs. Are you personally responsible for what happens to you? If so, then take care of your own and donate to charities that will help those temporarily down on their luck. Second do you believe capitalism to be a more moral system than Marxist based systems. Meaning, you go participate in the free market, there is a ton of opportunities out there to do well, unfortunately when they knock on the door they are dressed in overalls and look like work.

These two things are the dividing point in AMerica today, people want to put the blame on someone else and they do not want to do what it takes to do well or be satisfied.

for the idiot who called you a fascist, they have no understanding of the word, socialized health care is fascist.

Answer 2

You are 100% right. As to what is wrong with socialist anything - there is Kolyma - one the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic's death camps and Buchenwald - one of the death camps of the National Socialist German Workers Party [NAZI].

The Left wants to allocate resources politically so that they can steal them. For instance, in Australia, the homosexual lobby is able to get retrovirals for free, but no one else can; the feminists can have drugs for breast cancer for free, but men cannot have it for prostate cancer. There are whole swathes of drugs that can only be had if you get a bureaucratic approval, no matter how much money you have. Sylvester Stallone was prosecuted in Australia for having some DHEA, something that you can buy over the counter here.

Socialism delivers control and it permits life and death decisions to be put in the hands of socialists if they have the health system. The power to exterminate your enemies under the guise of doing the public good essentially makes you an American Stalin, with none of the negative recognition.

Most of us do not know what they would give up by socialized medicine, because we have not seen what happens in these other countries.

Castro interestingly enough, hates homosexuals and confines those with AIDS in concentration camps. Such are the powers conceded by quarantine and socialized health schemes.

Answer 3

What genuine conservative desires to maintain Social risk-free practices and Medicare? Please look up this be conscious and examine out precisely what genuine conservatives ought to assert on those 2 subject concerns. base line, you're a socialist, not greater, in basic terms a socialist by definition of how you view wellbeing care.

Answer 4

DeadMarxist, you're a man after my own heart.

I, once again, completely agree. I think the number of 40 million is greatly over-exaggerated anyway. The Democrats, Socialists, and Liberals try to use the "woe is the poor" tactic on us everyday, to pull at our heart strings and make those of us who refuse to fall into their trap, and feel sorry for them enough to throw more money at them, look like cold-hearted reptiles. The fact is, we already have socialized care - it's called Medicaid and Medicare.

The rest of us who do not qualify for those programs have jobs. Those jobs should either provide an HMO program, or they should be gainful enough to afford an outside plan. If your job is not doing either for you then consider getting a new one, going back to school to get a better one, or (imagine this) use that tax return money for something beneficial to your family rather than buying that boat, going on that vacation, or another 50 inch flat screen TV. Stop living beyond your means.

I shouldn't be punished or have to pay for those who can't budget their own money or have unhealthy lifestyles. Not to mention everything the government touches turns to poo. I don't want a federal bean counter in charge of MY medical treatment.

Answer 5

The United States is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee access to health care as a right of citizenship. 28 industrialized nations have single payer universal health care systems.

Federal studies by the Congressional Budget Office and the General Accounting office show that single payer universal health care would save 100 to 200 Billion dollars per year despite covering all the uninsured and increasing health care benefits.

The United States spends 50 to 100% more on administration than single payer systems.

There would be free choice of health care providers under a single payer universal health care system, unlike our current managed care system in which people are forced to see providers on the insurer’s panel to obtain medical benefits.

Answer 6

I pay taxes, I work two jobs, I would like some healthcare so when I get sick I can get over it quicker and get back to work.
I know not everyone deserves it, but a lot of us do, and even more need it and don't have it.
Maybe not universal healthcare, but how about cheaper health care, how about perscription prices that don't cost so much.

No the government shouldn't follow the guy gambling around, but they should be there if that guy needs help becoming a productive member of society.

Answer 7

No your so right Only some deserve medical attention

The people who make more money than you should get the operation that you do not deserve

I mean if it is a coice between you and someone who makes twice what you do - Then you should be pushed aside how dare you take up the space of that guy ?


The poor should die in the streets - thats what god would have wanted - I am sure Jesus said that

40 million people weren't smart enough to buy insurance than they get what they deserve -

On that note these poor people just die in the street expecting the state to pick up the tab for disposal

My tax money should not be spent on that - If the dumb poor guy that wasn't smart enough to buy insurance or get a job dies I say let them rot in the park where they could do somthing useful like become fertalizer -

Boy you sure have converted me thanks

Just don't get in my way if I have to go to the hospital because I am certain I make more than you do and so I get first and best -

Answer 8

Ok ... Firstly I am an Aussie and extremely proud of our national health care system .. I do wish it was even broader.. .

Secondly .. I feel the same way about education and personally believe in an extremely high standard of education FOR AL CHILDREN .. the same high level for all.. not a better education for the wealthy

thirdly I believe our aged population should be cared for in the manner they deserve and not treated worse than people in prisions.

Why do I believe this...

Well firstly a healthy nation is a strong nation, mentally and Physically...a strong and healthy nation is a BETTER nation

A wonderfully high standard of education for all children makes a clever and intelligent nation, one that is less dependent on the scientists, doctors etc of other nations...
For all we know it could be a poor child that could come up with a cure for cancer, alzheimers etc .. if only they had the opportunity of a decent education....

And caring for our elderly shows our respect and compassion

I understand the need for conservatisism, I am conservitive in many ways ... with the exception of Health care, education and aged care.

A healthy , educated and compasssionate nation is truly a powerful nation and I believe would be one that would have a loyal and faithful populace...

call me a gutter dwelling socialist all you like because i hold these views.. I'll wear the title proudly, but will you wear Ignorrant doofus?

Answer 9

Seems like one of those douchebag questions where everyone who doesn't agree gets a thumbs down.

Silly Americans. Survival of fittest rules supreme until you or someone you love needs some help, then you look for someone to blame like immigrants. Newsflash - Australia has Medicare for all Australians but immigrants can't access it until they get permanent residency after at least 2 years. Canada, UK, Netherlands, Italy, New Zealand, etc. all have universal health care.

The attitude that if someone needs heart surgery and cant afford it - well that's too bad let the weak just die... this is so sad and so unAmerican. You should be embarrassed that you can't even look after your 'poor huddled masses' while you are happy to spend 100 TRILLION dollars on a war to protect oil so you can drive around in your cars and getter fatter and closer to that heart surgery date.

Answer 10

What about the fire department? Does everyone deserve services from them? Or just the people who pay the insurance.

What about the police department? Maybe we should only have police for the people who can afford it. Let the rest live in anarchy.

It's about public service. Minimal health care (emergency and general care) should be some part of the tax package. We are too rich of a country to deny that. If you are too selfish to see this then you need some education. Who pays for lack of health care? Not the poor. Surely not the insurance companies. It's the government and the hospital who picks up the bill when someone goes to the emergency room and has no money and no insurance. Sounds like a tax to me! Might as well get some for yourself.

It's not "Socialism".. It's common sense! We will still be a Republic of crazy nutjobs even if we have healthcare benefits. Those that are the most against this are the insurance companies that have a death grip on the industry as well as the pharmacutical companies who also have a death grip on prices for their products that sell for 10X or more what they sell for in the rest of the world.