Doesn't it logically follow from these 2 statements (see details) that the BNP should be given more respect?

Question

1. The British are the most decent, well informed people on the planet.

2. The poll below, taken by the HIGHLY respected YouGov and in conjunction with SKY NEWS, shows 20% of the pop. would SERIOUSLY consider voting BNP and the majority want all immigration halted.
http://yougov.com/archives/pdf/omi060101069_1.pdf

Ergo, the BNP should be given more respect (and all immigration should be halted)

In reply to MarkyMark, our 'first past the post' electoral system is designed to dissuade people from voting for smaller parties (although they may support them).

Answer 1

This is the same old poll from April (Prior to the local elections where the BNP polled less than 1% of the overall vote), with a polling sample of around 900 taken in an area where the BNP has uncharacteristically strong support. The poll also indicates a large drop in support for the policies mentioned where they were associated with the BNP. This is a largely discredited poll which was proved inaccurate by the subsequent elections.

As to whether the BNP should be given more respect - consider the following quote from a speech by BNP leader Nick Griffin to BNP activists in 2006 -

"We bang on about Islam. Why? Because to the ordinary public out there it's the thing they can understand. It's the thing the newspaper editors sell newspapers with. Some people say we should attack the Jews ... But ... we've got to get to power. It wouldn't get us anywhere other than stepping backwards.......... It would lock us in a little box; the public would think 'extremist crank lunatics, nothing to do with me.' And we wouldn't get power."

Not only is this a blatant admission of the BNP's Crypto-Fascism, it is also a clear admission of their dishonesty and attempts to mislead the public by hiding their true agenda.

The BNP represent the Fascist values that Britain fought so hard against during world war 2. Combat 18 - the paramilitary group who are closely associated with the BNP, use openly Nazi symbolism and rhetoric. The BNP have close ties with far right Neo-Nazi groups in Europe and with the KKK in the USA. Those who support the BNP in no way represent true British values or patriotism. The BNP are actually the most unpatriotic political party in the UK, since they represent values that are completely alien to the vast majority of decent British people.

Yes, The British are the most decent, well informed people on the planet. That is why the BNP will never be given more respect and will remain marginalised and vilified on the outer fringes of British politics.

Answer 2

Statement [1] is highly questionable. I have visited Holland quite often and find the Dutch people to be generally more decent and well-informed than Brits.

Statement [2] does not state whether those questioned were aware of the full implications of BNP policies so cannot be taken as real support for them or their policies.

Ergo, your conclusions are not supported by your 'evidence'.

Answer 3

So 80 % wouldnt consider voting and probably half those who would consider it wont actually do it , probably find that the same pollsters could with the right preceding questions get a 50% figure voting for greens and that won't happen either .So no you'll probably find that BNP doesnt require more respect but it should get a fair hearing which is what Democracy is about but so should any other party including Monster Raving Loony Party and any other crackpots.

Answer 4

The BNP have quite a lot of convictions of assualt in their leaders. The also like to promotoe things like holocaust denial.

Just becuase BNP may say things about immigration that people agree with, there's many nasty things about them that people don't.

You think you're right, I think I'm right.

Fact of the matter is, the BNP did badly in the last elections. Even their leader, Nick, called the results disappointing despite immigration being an important topic.

PS A survey of 900 out of a population of 60,000,000 is pathetic and shows nothing

Answer 5

No they should not !!!!!!!!

Look the BNP developed out of the National Front - They realised that skinheads beating up people would get nowhere, so they started the 'political path'.

they now wear suits - they are all clean shaven - they are polite - most have degrees.

They also start by saying things that 'anyone would not argue with'. BUT their message will get more extreme as time goes on. Hate will seep into their policies, until they are demanding more & more violent and severe measures.

DONN'T GET SUCKERED IN THEY ARE RACISTS, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

Answer 6

The BNP all who join it and what it stands for can never command respect.

Answer 7

Point 1 is simply patronising.

Point 2 is selective use of statistics.

Never thought I would see "logical" and "BNP" in the same sentence.

"BNP" and "Nazi" yes.

Answer 8

How many of these most decent, well informed people on the planet that are seriously consider voting BNP know this is who they would be voting for

1. Tony Lecomber, prominent in the BNP hierarchy, served three years in jail for a nail bomb plot. He got another three years in 1991 for stabbing a Jewish teacher and has 12 convictions in all.

2. Kevin Scott, BNP organiser in the North East, has convictions for assault and threatening behaviour.

3. Paul Harris, 41, BNP council candidate in Barnsley was convicted of using threatening behaviour towards a pensioner.

4. Jason Douglas, one of the BNP's leading candidates in the Greater London local elections, is a convicted football hooligan.

5. Warren Bennett, the BNP's chief steward, is also a convicted football hooligan.

6. Stephen Belshaw, who stood for the BNP in Amber Valley, East Midlands, was convicted in 1994 of attacking a Jewish solicitor.

7. Colin Smith, BNP South East London organiser. 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.

8. Darren Dobson, BNP council candidate in Oldham. Convicted of racially aggravated assault at Oldham magistrates in November 2001.

9. Frank Forte, BNP member in Waltham Forest, convicted of Actual Bodily Harm in 1989.

10. Paul Thompson, former BNP organiser for Durham and Darlington convicted of criminal damage after an attack on a book shop in Durham. Also convicted for violence after attacking football fans.

11. Neil Keilty, BNP member, whose convictions since 1987 include criminal damage, possession of an offensive weapon and threatening behaviour.

12. Gary Mitchell former Sunderland BNP secretary, convicted of racist attacks and possession of offensive weaponry.

Answer 9

Here, Here!!
Come on good yeomen (and yeowomen) of Mighty England, at the next election let us put our "X" on the BNP.
Looking around I fear they are the only people who can save us and our race from total anhialation!
We've had Tory sleaze, we have stomached Labour inability and we care not for the limp risted Liberals.
I don't care for the consequences of the BNP. Open your eyes everyone and look at society under Labour.

Answer 10

My sentiments. by the way, what percentage of that 20% were English?. Just curious!.