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A simple analogy: In America, there was a Civil War. The "South" lost. The "Confederate States of America" is not a country. Why don't people understand that losers of a Civil War are NOT in a position to make demands. That's that.

2007-07-04 20:37:50 · 11 answers · asked by Lightbringer 6 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

Look, China has its issues. I have been living there for many years. I worked in Taiwan, and while the Taiwanese are not angels, it's still the better place. I would respect Taiwan Independence --- if they had won.

2007-07-04 21:29:43 · update #1

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Actually, China is part of Taiwan. Both governments go by the "one China" concept; it just depends one one's perspective. They haven't lost the civil war (yet). In all practical purposes, Taiwan is an independent country but because communist China is too big of a bully for other countries to deal with, Taiwan has to live life in limbo. The bottom line is that by international and UN rules, the people of an area decide who their government is and the vast majority of the people of Taiwan do not want to be within the communist dictatorship. That doesn't mean they want to be independent, either. It would be like the USA invading Puerto Rico to force them to become a state. They are part of the USA but separate. The vast majority does not want to become a state nor does it want to become independent. Yes, it is different because PRs can freely travel and work in the USA but that's just because the USA is a beacon and communist China a cave.

2007-07-04 21:09:07 · answer #1 · answered by Caninelegion 7 · 2 1

Your question is: "Taiwan is part of China, isn't it?" A simple analogy: In America, there was a Civil War. The "South" lost. The "Confederate States of America" is not a country. Why don't people understand that losers of a Civil War are NOT in a position to make demands ..... ..... .....

Indeed, your question and supporting statement appear logical on the surface. However, the situation of Taiwan in the world today is not the result of the Chinese Civil War, rather it is an issue left over from WWII in the Pacific.

Your statements conveniently ignore the fact that under international law, Taiwan was Japanese territory until April 28, 1952. In the San Francisco Peace Treaty (SFPT), which came into effect on that date, Japan renounced all claims over Taiwan. However, "China" was not designated as the receiving country.

Hence, legally speaking, Taiwan does not belong to China (either the ROC or the PRC). This fact is further supported by noting that the procedures for "incorporating" Taiwan into Chinese territory, via Article 4 of the ROC Constitution, have never been completed.

Looking further back at the historical record, we can see that the only reason why the Chinese Nationalists are in Taiwan is because Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek was directed by General MacArthur to go to Taiwan and accept the surrender of Japanese troops there. Those directions were contained in General Order No. 1, issued Sept. 2, 1945.

Accordingly, the ROC commanders were transported to Taiwan on US ships, and held the Japanese surrender ceremonies on Oct. 25, 1945, in Taipei. Thus, the military occupation of Taiwan began on this date. (There was no transfer of sovereignty on Oct. 25, 1945. The transfer of sovereignty occurred on April 28, 1952, when Japan renounced all claims over Taiwan. However, "China" was not designated as the receiving country.)

If the above analysis is clear to you, (if not, please re-read several times), then we can derive the status of the "Republic of China on Taiwan" as follows: The ROC is a (1) subordinate occupying power, beginning Oct. 25, 1945, and (2) a government in exile beginning mid-December 1949.

Taiwan is not a part of China, it is occupied territory of the United States of America -- the "principal occupying power" of the SFPT.

Unfortunately, the U.S. State Department has kept all of these facts hidden from the American public and members of Congress for more than 50 years.

2007-07-07 00:32:55 · answer #2 · answered by Coordinates-TW 3 · 1 0

Yes , Red-China is a part of Taiwan . Years before , Taiwan force may be can have the chance to take back that big part to Taiwan . Now-a-day is another story , they can't and force is not enough to bit back - it's true .
Who's the boss now-a-day is : Army Force .
If America not strong in force , also can't be the leader in this world .
I love to see the Taiwan can be a country , however , I also believed - not easy .
Beside ; I love Taiwan and hope all the peoples over there can be " easy & lazy " .

2007-07-05 05:32:46 · answer #3 · answered by Joe Chiu 1 · 2 0

Taiwan was ceded to Japan in 1895. The Chinese civil war ended in 1949. The Japanese renounced all rights to Taiwan in 1952, 3 years after the civil war ended. Therefore, a legimate argument can be made that Taiwan is not part of China. Prior to the 17th century, the people on the mainland had little if any contact with the aboriginal peoples who inhabited the island.

2007-07-05 03:59:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Yes. The gov't in Taiwan is not legitimate by international laws since it was ousted. Taiwan was always part of China b/f WWII, and after WWII Japan ceded Taiwan to China...then we got the civil war and the former gov't of China fleeing to Taiwan and delcaring that it is still the gov't of China (which is including taiwan)...there's no logic in why taiwan was never part of China...

also...china bring down hk? when was the last time you watched the news...China would be the best country to be with, especially since it is the fastest economically growing nation in the world...also hk would fall behind by itself...and the fact that it is legal and always has been part of China makes your idea completely retarded :)

2007-07-05 23:43:01 · answer #5 · answered by CGAR 2 · 0 1

Or you could say China is a part of Taiwan. Taiwan has traditionally considered itself the legitimate government of China and it was in fact the Chinese government who moved to Taiwan (when China and Taiwan were one country) when the Communist dictatorship took over. I don't view totalitarian regimes as legitimate so I would recognize the Taiwanese government, not the dictatorship on the mainland

2007-07-05 03:43:27 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

yes taiwan is a part of china. It's commonly used to refer to the territories administered by the Republic of China....which governs the island of Taiwan. hope this answers your question good enough!

2007-07-05 03:50:02 · answer #7 · answered by Lexie Handley 1 · 2 1

Taiwan is its own country and is part of the Republic of China.
The real China is part of the People's Republic of China.
They're different.

2007-07-05 03:47:32 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I would say that taiwan is it own country. They have their own form of government and different currency.

i would hope that hong kong would be its own country.
i don't like how china is draggin down hong kong.

2007-07-05 03:46:31 · answer #9 · answered by sellatieeat 6 · 1 0

Taiwan is it's own country, IDIOT! GOSH!

2007-07-05 03:44:54 · answer #10 · answered by Boofer 1 · 1 4

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