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If Democrats are going to demand apologies for historic crimes, they need to inform themselves better about their own party's history. The following racial crimes were perpetrated throughout American history by The Democratic Party, its leaders and supporters:


Preserving and enhancing the legal-standing of the institution of slavery in the ante-bellum South against all humanitarian calls for reform;
Extending the peculiar institution of slavery into Texas and Missouri;
Attempting to extend the institution of slavery into California, Kansas and other US territories and states;
Extending into free-states the slave-masters' legal right to retrieve their "property", escaped slaves. (Dred Scott);
Initiating the secession of the Southern states to preserve slavery upon the election of Abraham Lincoln, a Republican with abolitionist views;
Undermining the North's resolve to preserve the Union and emancipate the slaves (Democrat Copperheads)

2007-07-04 06:19:31 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

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Liberalism really doesn't mean tolerance, equality, and helping the little guy.
Liberals only care about a poor person or minority for one day every four years, and that is election day.

2007-07-04 06:30:09 · answer #1 · answered by PH 5 · 2 4

ATTENTION: J S: take note, this addresses your question!

Thanks for asking such an unbiased question!

First, various political parties have existed in this country since its inception. They stood for many, many different ideas and ideals, changing and molding with the times.

Second, let me help you with a little history on one of the most famous Senators ever: Strom Thurman, beloved poster-boy of the Republican party.

Sen. Thurman holds the record for the LONGEST filibuster in history, speaking for 24 hrs, 18 mins. He was in the Senate for almost 50 years, retiring just recently in 2003. He died at the age of 100, a few months later. Thurman started out as a Democrat and switched to Republican in the 50s.

Do you know what Sen. Thurman was filibustering?

Do you even know what a filibuster is? "As a form of obstructionism in a legislature or other decision making body, a filibuster is an attempt to extend debate upon a proposal in order to delay or completely prevent a vote on its passage." (wikipedia).

Thurman was filibustering the very first Civil Rights legislation, the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

Some of his highlights:

He was a segregationist.

He voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and against the confirmation of Thurgood Marshall as the first African-American Supreme Court Justice.

He had a close relationship with the Nixon administration.

While his racial views moderated over the years, "he never publicly renounced his preference for racial segregation." (wiki)

He was a hypocrite:
Shortly after his death, a woman of mixed race came forward claiming he was her father. His family confirmed this. He had sexual relations with an African-American maid which produced a daughter in 1925. Years later, he acts against measures to desegregate!

See here for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond

There are other, more detailed bios around, I'm sure.

Please, do some research before you ask such ridiculously biased questions. There is not a political party in this nation that does not have skeletons in its closet.

Remember: Let ye without sin, cast the first stone.
I daresay, there will be none thrown in Washington DC anytime soon.

2007-07-04 14:37:06 · answer #2 · answered by dee s 4 · 1 0

Up until 50 years ago, it was indeed the GOp and not the Democrats that supported African Americans' efforts to achieve equal rights. However, by the time of the civil rights movement, that had changed. The Democrats--first the mainstream and later the southernwing of the party, supported the civil rights movement. And the so-called conservatives--the forerunners of todays neo-conservatives--repudated their history and dishonered their legacy of support for human rights.

Today's Republican Party is a haven for white trash like the KKK and the minutemen--and, as the saying goes, one is known by the company one keeps. Your history-pre-WW2-is correct. But times change. The GOP today is an insult to everything Licoln stood for.

2007-07-04 13:55:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

What an un-ethical intellectually crippled post of which the Bard himself would have wrote, "Like a tale told by an idiot,full of sound and fury signifying nothing".

Your intellectual dis-honesty or your monumental ignorance (take your pick for these are the only two choices) sees you totally obfuscating the issue by mixing up the terms DEMOCRAT,REPUBLICAN ,LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE.

All DEMOCRATS in US history especially before the 1960s WERE NOT LIBERALS BUT IN FACT ARDENT CONSERVATIVES.

Perfect example of this was the large Democratic southern Congress members which were/are referred to as the DIXIECRATS.For the most part these were rabid racists and
CONSERVATIVES.Go educate yourself.

It was over the passage of the CIVIL RIGHTS ACT that these friggin conservative racists in Democratic clothing were forced to come out of their filthy racist closets and by their voting to not pass the Civil Rights Act ,they then had no choice whatsoever but to quit the Democratic Party and go where they ideologically always belonged;in the arms of the racist conservatives or more precisely ,the Republican party although all Republicans are of course not racists.

In fact any fool with any knowledge of history be it in the US or elsewhere knows that in essence virtually all racists are conservative ideologically but all conservatives are not necessarily racist.

Conservatism is an ideology that essentially wants the STATUS QUO to remain in place on most issues effecting society be they economical issues or social issues and like during and long after the Civil War ,these conservatives wanted slavery to continue and up until the 1960s found a way to maintain effective racist slavery by Jim Crow legislation.

LIBERALISM on the other hand is effectively the opposite to conservatism.

It was of course liberals that started the Abolitionist movement in the early 19th century and eventually ended slavery ,

It is generally always liberals that fight against racism of all kinds from sexual orientation to colour etc etc and it is essentially always conservatives who want NO CHANGE .

In your opening silliness ,you chastised Democrats for not informing themselves of their party's own history.

I like most Democrats are in fact first and foremost ideologically liberal and as I have just taught you,we cknow our history well especially the bottom dwelling racist Dixiecrats who admittedly the Party should have thrown out of the party long before they were "outed".

Today the Democratic Party still has a number of ideologically conservative members who should be booted out of the party simply because their views on balance are not Democratic/Liberal .

It is YOU that needs to inform yourself and especially about all important nuances which can mean the difference between "life and death" "Right and Wrong" , "Good and Bad".etc.

Now off you go grasshopper to the hit the history books .

2007-07-04 14:02:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Neither party has the same basis of support that it did in the 1860's; the Dems no longer have their Southern support base and the Repugs changed almost a century ago when Teddy Roosevelt took its progressive wing and tried to form an independent party.

Neither the left or right has a monopoly on racism - there are wankers in both parties.

2007-07-04 13:28:55 · answer #5 · answered by mr_fartson 7 · 2 0

Those are good points, if one is studying history. But it's pretty silly for today's Republicans to try to stand behind the image of Abraham Lincoln when they have abandoned everything he stood for. The Republican party today stands for the right of rich white guys to get even richer, even if it takes killing little brown people or oppressing women and minorities in our own country. The fact that a few rich women or minorities have joined the club is only the exception that proves the rule.

2007-07-04 13:24:43 · answer #6 · answered by TG 7 · 5 0

here's the trick... all the grand kids and great grand kids of the people you talk about are now Republican...

and the all the grand kids and great grand kids of the people that opposed them are now Democrat.

you can look at which states voted for what you talk about then... and now which same states support which party... it's pretty clear...

now I bet your going to go ask a question about "why are todays' Democrats different than the old democrats?" right? just like I've seen on here many times...

because the party has changed... and everyone knows it... and based on all those facts you just said... it's clearly for the better...

OH... and all those issues you ask are clearly conservative issues... if you're familiar with what "conservative" and "liberal" were back in the periods you speak about...

2007-07-04 15:15:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Democrats of the 1860s and during Reconstruction are the Republicans of today. the label does not mean anything but the fundamental idiology remains the same, religious evangelistic, Warlike, expansionist
mean spirited, racist (- yes even today,-) these are the attributes of the Republicans of today and the Democrats of the antebellum and Reconstruction era. Todays Democrarts were more like the WHIGS back then.

2007-07-04 13:44:00 · answer #8 · answered by planksheer 7 · 3 0

I don't hear democrats as a whole calling for an apology for slavery or "historic crimes" as you put it. I think that that is a silly concept in and of itself. For what it is worth, I don't think either political party is "racist" but I do think that the Republican party is classist and sexist.

2007-07-04 13:27:40 · answer #9 · answered by DeAnna 4 · 3 0

I'm not history. Back then, I would have been a staunch Republican. But those days are over. It's the here and now that matters.

2007-07-04 13:50:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

PH is closest to the truth of the whole question, but it's more than that. The Republicans were just as much for enslaving the poorer population as anyone. All politicians are corrupt, so it doesn't matter what label you put on them, as they are all the same.

2007-07-04 13:48:12 · answer #11 · answered by DaddyDeath 2 · 1 1

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