Can i apply for this sorta patent??...no answers in law and ethics?

Question

is such a patent possible in which only i have the right to create a perpetual motion machine which works on principles of magnetic attraction/repletion...i mean the design dosent matter...the fact is no one else can make a perpectual motion machine based on magnetism and use it.
...its just an example

Now if someone else make another design for this machine which does the same thing and works on principles of magnetism...but the design is different over all than mine...he will not allowed the patent, or any one will not be allowed to use this design he has made cause I have a patent filed.
Is this sorta situation possible?...or is there such sora patent?


tell my if u dont understand

Answer 1

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

To get a patent for any invention, the invention must be "useful." "Useful" basically means that the invention can't be inoperative. In addition, the invention must be "enabled." Typically, an invention is considered enabled if you have described the invention in writing with sufficient detail to let those of ordinary skill in the art to SUCCESSFULLY practice the invention.

As far as I or the patent office knows, perpetual motion machines are theoretically impossible to produce, and no one has yet successfully produced one. Accordingly, the patent office will summarily reject ALL applications directed to perpetual motion machines. The only way you could overcome the patent office's rejection is to provide an ACTUAL WORKING MODEL. A "near perpetual" motion model will not suffice.

Incidentally, others have in the past submitted applications for "perpetual motion machines." Since NONE WORKED, none of the applications were allowed.

Assuming you actually provide a WORKING model and a patent issues as a result, your hypothetical competitor would have to jump through basically the same hoops that you had jumped through to get a competing patent. However, the hypothetical competitor will have to additionally demonstrate why his machine is not "obvious" in view of yours.

Answer 2

First, the patent office will no longer accept any application for a perpetual motion machine. So the answer is hypothetical only.

What you are asking is if your patent can contain claims broad enough to prevent anyone else from patenting (or making or using) a magnetic-based perpetual motion machine. In your patent, you have to claim specific embodiments of your invention; just saying "using magnetism" is not enough. You would have to provide enough information so someone can build it, and then your claims could not extend beyond what you have disclosed.

If someone tried to patent another invention using magnetism, then the issue is whether the method is close enough to yours so that someone "skilled in the art" could come up with that approach. In that case, they could not get the patent. An example, if your machine used 4 coils, and the newer patent said 6 coils, but otherwise similar, that would not be allowed.

However, if the approach were significantly different (like a different magnetic field configuration), it is possible that such a patent would be granted.

Answer 3

Are you SURE you didn't get any answers in Law & Ethics? What you are proposing is fraud. Aside from that, patents are not granted without "reduction to practice" -- an actual working model of the device for which you are seeking the patent.

Answer 4

Actually British Common Law does not predate Christianity. It was created by King Henry the second(a Christian) in 1154. I just wanted to point that out seeing as the "in a century before Christianity" answer is quite innacurate. It was introduced not long after the dark ages. Sorry I don't have a proper answer, but that answer probably sounded to me the same way it does when, someone claims your founding fathers were all Christian". Innacurate enough. I am quite aware that British Common Law, was primarily inspired Greco-Roman law.

Answer 5

It's impossible. Magnetic attraction is a FORCE, not a source of energy. You can't use magnets to do work for you. That violates the law that energy cannot be created.

Let me clarify what I mean. Suppose you want to generate electricity by moving a magnet through a coil. Where will you get the energy to physically move this magnet? That energy (work) will equal or exceed any electrical energy you get back.

Answer 6

I don't think that's possible.
Look at it this way...you know all those as seen on tv products?
How many knock offs can you buy of the same concept?
Of course the design is not mimicked down to a T, there are differences.
Another thing to think about...look at the different exercise equipment manufacturers. For example, they all make an adjustable incline/flat/decline bench. Same concept different adjustment pins and tubing aesthetics.....
you see where i'm going with this?

Answer 7

if anyone deserves to get the patent it would not be you but Tesla... and what gives you all encompassing rights to it. the idea is not yours. maby you should get a real job and stop with this because smarter people than you have tried and failed to build it.