July 4, 1776, Didn't the American People declare themselves free of tyrany?

Question

July 4, 1776. The People of the United States declared their independence from King George III for reasons including:

"He has refused [to agree] to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good"

"He has obstructed the Administration of Justice..."

"He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone..."

"For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury"

"For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences"

"For ... abolishing our most valuable Laws..."

The declaration says: "A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."

Thus was King George deposed as the Ruler of These United States. ALL of these things are true of George Bush who, according to our own Declaration of Independence "is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."

On July 4, 2007, shouldn't Free Americans impeach the new King George II and his court, including Lord Cheney?

I did not call for a Revolutionary War or a violent overthrow of the government. That would be treason and anti-American, like giving up a CIA agent's identity for political purposes. Our brilliant founders gave us a way to correct even these horrendous abuses of Presidential power peaceably with the impeachment process.
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Furious Blue, Spike, prop's for your excellent, well spoken contributions.
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For those who are still blaming Clinton for every problem in America, get a clue. After the terrorists attacked us on US soil in '93, Clinton's policies kept them from doing so again for 8 years, until Bush became President and Gulliani put the NYC Emergency Control Center in the very place they had attacked, and threatened to attack again.

And when they did, did we chase them down and punish them? We did beat the Taliban in Afghanistan, but instead of fighting Al Queda, Bush instead invaded Iraq. That's like FDR attacking Mexico after Pearl Harbor.

Answer 1

An excellent point, very well articulated.
230 years ago, this nation had the benefit of intelligent, idealistic and courageous leaders.
Those men hammered out a form of government that was brilliantly simple, elegant and effective. They built in the flexibility necessary to keep the Constitution relevant and functional for future generations in a changing world. No doubt, they did this with the belief that future generations would be able to produce similar crops of smart, hard-working visionaries who would be wise stewards of the Constitution.
Instead, we now find ourselves a nation of complacent, self-involved, over-medicated, ignorant, greedy hypocrites with the attention span of toddlers. And we've selected a leader who is the ultimate personification of those new American virtues: George W. Bush. This man has been an epic failure at every business endeavor he's ever attempted from running an oil company to running a baseball team. He speaks like a man with a third grade education. He has ignored the Constitution and subverted the rule of law constantly for years. He has filled his government with similarly incompetent idealogues. He's sent thousands of people to their deaths for no good reason.
Should we impeach him? Of course we should. Will we? Of course we won't. That would require action. That would require disrupting the status quo.
Welcome to the last days of Rome.

Answer 2

No, slavery was not abolished until the ratification of the thirteenth ammendment to the constitution, which was actually a year or so after the Civil war, so around 1866. As to whether or not African Americans should celebrate Independence day, it depends on whether you're glad there is a United States of America or not. If there wasn't, then you'd be an inhabitant of the largest province of the British Empire, and chances are blacks might never have been freed, especially considering the fact that it was American ingenuity that came up with most of the technologies that rendered slavery obsolete. But, I mean, if you would rather be the slave of some British plantation owner, go ahead and boycott the date of the creation of the nation that freed your race. Note To All: The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in Confederate occupied territories--Union slave states were immune.

Answer 3

He should be impeached for war crimes and all that he has done, unfortunately it will never happen. You see, all of these things has happened to people from other countries, specifically people from middle eastern countries. This means that Bush is not actually doing anything against American citizens, for the most part, which means that less stupid Americans will care about what is happening. Which means that there will not be enough support for anything that happens and so the ultimate goal of dethroning the idiot will never occur. If he were to be impeached solely based on the facts of the crimes he has committed, I have no doubt that he would be proven guilty and taken out of office. If the senate were to use all of its power to find out all that has been going on and to use the facts to prove him guilty, they would succeed. Unfortunately this is not all that they need. They need the republicans. Republicans would never impeach Bush because of their party commitment and some personal beliefs, for republicans to change their vote and impeach the president would take a huge outcry from the people. This will not happen though because the majority do not care what happens to foreigners and only care if it happens to them. As long as bush keeps his dirty hands away from the American people he is safe. I wish it were the other way though.

Answer 4

Don,
No argument from me! We are in a police state tyranny with the police protecting the government and big corporations. They operate under the color of law and ignore our constitution to a truly frightening degree. They think they can make up any rules they want and push all of us around at their will.
We have a totally out of control executive branch thinking they are the decider and make the laws.
This has to end while we still have a shred of out country left and before the UN troops arrive to establish order.
I want this to be peaceful but fear it won't be. We better wake up and do something while peaceful means are still available! Our defeat of the amnesty bill proves we still can do something positive. Impeaching Cheney would be a very good start to regaining our country before we are totally in the North American union!
Supporting Dr. Ron Paul will help as his liberty message is very powerful.

Answer 5

good point! 'the decider' acts more like 'the dictator'...it is puzzling to me how a terrorist attack, however heinous and despicable, could cause a nation that once stood for principles like justice, freedom, equality...to stand idly by in the face of government sanctioned and directed torture, the destruction of another country which posed no threat to us, locking up people for years without charge or any due process, unprecedented levels of surveillance without any court authorization, oversight, or reasonable suspicion, the muzzling and intimidation of any who would question the justification of these acts...if we were talking about ANY other nation doing the things that this administration has been doing, we would be calling them 'war crimes'

Answer 6

No we got fooled worst! But what does the Who know?

Though contained in the Declaration of Independence, they made it so you could not overthrow the government, though my state Constitution reads, and it fits Bush to a T:

[Art.] 10. [Right of Revolution.] Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.

June 2, 1784

Answer 7

Its like what THE WHO said...

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Answer 8

And Mistress Pelosi and Lord Reid and Kennedy?

Here Here!

Answer 9

YES!, and all of his little people. Can you believe he commuted Scooter Libby's sentence. It is just another horrible example of his idiocy. there was no legal reason to do it.

Answer 10

here we go you never said this when Clinton blockade the streets of New York for a happy meal run oh dont use 4th of July as a political tool thank you.