Do Conservatives think Justice and Jail is for everyone else?

Question

but themselves.....?

What message are we sending to our children?

What happens next time a gang banger says to the Judge that the rich and privileged don't have to follow the laws so why should he?

Is this America going back to the lawless days of the West?

Answer 1

CBS News June 13, 2007
Bush Seeks To Re-Impose Mandatory Minimums
Crime Bill Would Limit Judges' Sentencing Power; Critics Call It "One Size Fits All Justice

AP) "The Bush administration is trying to roll back a Supreme Court decision by pushing legislation that would require prison time for nearly all criminals."

"In a speech June 1 to announce the bill, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales urged Congress to re-impose mandatory minimum prison sentences against federal convicts — and not let judges consider such penalties “merely a suggestion.”
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The dishonesty of Bush and all of his followers is so transparent. In June Bush is pushing mandatory minimums. In July Bush is excusing his convicted friend a two and a half year stretch for fear the prison time will turn his friend into a snitch..

I agree with Mike Malloy and Peter Werbe...it's impossible to tolerate these people anymore (including their sheep). They should be held in total contempt by all who love democracy, all who love freedom, all who believe in justice and equality.

They are a heinous despicable people not worthy of our friendship, our loyalty (as Americans) or even our tolerance. They are traitors to America, traitors to humanity, and should be treated as such.

Answer 2

Here is just a small sample of the Clinton pardons (which he had a right to do. Right or wrong, it is excutive privlage).

PARDONS 11/23/1994. 41 people received a pardon from Clinton:
Drug Dealer: David Christopher Billmaier
Car Thief: Terry Lee Brown
Counterfeiter: Jimmy C. Dick
Drug Dealer: Carl Bruce Jones
Drug Dealer: Candace Deon Leverenz

There are hundreds more. The DPT of Justice has a web-site listing all of Clintons pardons. http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

BTW. Libby had his prison term commuted by Bush. Which simply means he will not serve his jail time. He is still guilty of the non-crime which he was found guilty of. He is still going to pay his quarter-million dollar fine and he is still going to be on probation.

Answer 3

The message should be clear by now - There is one law for you and another for "them". Forget the partisan politics -

He who has the gold makes the rules -

It has been like that for over 4,000 yrs

Answer 4

Yes. Bush is a cowboy isn't he? I think he prefers that America is lawless like the old west. Then he can play sheriff.

Answer 5

I answered your clone's question first. I should just cut and paste the answer.

I think that jail should be for violent offenders, repeat offenders and people likely to reoffend.

Probation for first time, non-violent offenders is pretty standard for my practice. And I think Libby got worse, even with the commuted sentence.

Answer 6

I don't know you should probably ask the liberals they're prone to actually "pardoning" people in large numbers. Clinton pardoned hundreds of cronies. Libby wasn't pardoned he still has to pay a fine and it goes on his record.

Clinton - 140 pardons
Bush - 1 commuted sentence

Answer 7

Clinton pardoned a TON of people?

Answer 8

Yes they do.

They think they are aristocracy.

Answer 9

Why did Clinton pardon so many criminals?
Clinton's scandalous pardons were known as "Pardongate."

On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States mostly in New York City and Chicago, convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations. None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition. Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for "6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials." All of the 16 had served 19 years or longer in prison, which was a longer sentence than such crimes typically received, according to the White House.[citation needed] Clinton offered clemency, on condition that the prisoners renounce violence, at the appeal of 10 Nobel Peace Prize laureates, President Jimmy Carter, the cardinal of New York, and the archbishop of Puerto Rico. The commutation was opposed by U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police, members of Congress, and Hillary Clinton in her campaign for Senator. Congress condemned the action, with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House. The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying. President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group.


Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory pardons
In March 2000, Bill Clinton pardoned Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory, owners of the carnival company United Shows International, for charges of bank fraud from a 1982 conviction (the couple were already out of jail, but the prior conviction prevented them from doing business transactions in certain states). First Lady Hillary Clinton's youngest brother, Tony Rodham, was an acquaintance of the Gregorys, and had lobbied Clinton on their behalf.[9] In October 2006, the group Judicial Watch filed a request with the U.S. Justice Department for an investigation, alleging that Rodham had received $107,000 from the Gregorys for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme.


Pardons and commutations signed on final day in office
Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office (January 20, 2001). When a sentence is commuted, the conviction remains intact, but the sentence can be altered in a number of ways. Some controversial actions include the following:

Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison.
Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges. Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public. Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.
Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. Denise Rich, Marc's former wife, was a close friend of the Clintons and had made substantial donations to both Clinton's library and Hillary's Senate campaign. Clinton agreed to a pardon that required Marc Rich to pay a $100,000,000 fine before he could return to the United States. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.
Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role.
Dan Rostenkowski, a former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal. Rostenkowski had served his entire sentence.
Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charged and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house. He had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions.
Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon. He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others.