Did the Holocaust really happen the way it did?

Question

I do agree that 6 million jews died during the Nazi regime years.But to think that they all somehow got cremated in an oven at austwitzed is a little absurd. More likely the 6 million figure has to include all the natural deaths,people who lost fighting in WW2,suicides,deportations,ect.I think Hitler was going after really was to break up the strangle hold the jews had all over Europe,with their wealth,subtle,but still enourmous starnglehold on european governments and their freemasonary connections as well.I think Hitler wanted done really wasn't so much genocide, as he was trying to break the monopoly of influence the Jews had in Europe,while sadly taking out too many innocent men,women and children as well.Or was Hitler more anti-Zionism as opposed to being an Anti-semite. Yes I believe he went way over the top with the jewish question,but an issue that still needed redress.

Answer 1

Unfortunately, there's probably a microscopic grain of truth to some of what you say.

However, whatever the conditions were in Germany in 1932, and previously, and however that might have been influenced one way or another by various individuals of Jewish antecedents:

Jews, and Jewry were only a scapegoat.

Individuals make lousy decisions, no matter what ethnicity they claim.

The Nazi treatment of Jews didn't have much to do with the reality of Jews, so much as the abstraction of Jews.

While many Jews might have been rich, might have been bankers, might have contributed to the lousy economic situation Germany found itself in by 1932, the bulk of the Jewish population was comprised of tradesment, workers and craftsmen. The same as the rest of the German population.

To suggest German Jews strangled the German economy is similar to saying, "Damn, ALL those Germans were GREAT field marshalls!"

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As for how many people died in the camps.

Would, say, a million be a number you could more easily believe? If the real number's a million, would you proudly wave it around and assert the 3rd Reich wasn't so bad after all?

How about, say, half-million? Is that the number it would take to make slaughter and dehumanization a virtue?

The number of human beings who died in those camps might be argued by people driven by a wide range of motives. But the fact is, if a hundred, or a thousand, or ten thousand died in those camps, it was an abomination.

Arguing about the exact numbers detracts from the reality, rather than the other alternative.

The answers you get to this question will tell you a lot about the people doing the aswering. They won't tell you much, at all, about what happened in Germany, 1932-1935.

Any issue carrying so much emotional, political, victim-satisfaction as this one is difficult, where actual facts are concerned. Fortunately [from the perspective of sanity and human values], there's absolutely NO question whether the 3rd Reich killed as many Jews as it was able to catch. There's absolutely NO question whether they'd have killed more if they could have caught them. There's absolutely NO question of the intentions of the leaders of the 3rd Reich, where Jews were concerned.

All that's left up for grabs is some bean-counter obsession about numbers.

Answer 2

Yes it did and much more horribly than any of us could possibly imagine. Auschwitz was just one of the high "production" death camps. There were literally hundreds of camps and death camps throughout Europe. This does not take into account the "local actions" which were orchestrated by the Einsatzgruppen or SA or the pogroms initiated by local Balts, Poles, Ukranians, etc.

Over 12 million people, only half of which were Jewish, were victims of the Nazi extermination plan.

Hitler was an Anti-Semite. Zionism never factored into his thinking because Zionism is pretty much a postwar movement designed to bring the Jewish people back to the Land of David.

And let's not fool ourselves. Genocide was every bit Hitler's plan for European Jews. Nazi Germany committed tremendous resources to this destruction. In truth, the effort to destroy the European Jews significantly conflicted with military needs towards the end of the war.

Consider the case of Hungary in 1944. Hungary's Jews had pretty much been left alone by the Hungarian government. But then Hitler discovered that the Hungarians wanted to negotiate a separate peace with the Soviets. Hitler had Otto Skorzeny seize the capital and install a new government favorable to the Nazis. Once this was done, the Germans immediately rounded up the nations Jews and shipped them off Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc. ,etc. Keep in mind this huge undertaking was completed in only months as by February 1945 the Soviets would be in nominal control of Hungary.

Someday, take the time and go to Germany or to Poland and visit one of the Death Camps or perhaps go to the no empty Jewish Quarter in Prague and see the oldest Synagogue in Europe. The Jews are all gone, having died in the Holocaust.

I myself have been there and felt the ghosts of people who suffered unimaginable crimes at the hands of the Nazis.

I have also stood before the crematorium at Dachau. Trust me that is an experience that will change you forever.

And you'll never ask a guestion like this again....

Answer 3

Yes, the Holocaust really happened the way it happened.
There were lots of ovens, and lots of camps.
The 6 million is a low number. It included gays, gypsies, Jews and other "undesirables."
Regardless of what the "jews" did or didn't do or have or control-there is no reason to murder millions of people. Innocent children, women and men who didn't DO or HAVE anything.
Hitler hated Jews because they were "animals", dirty, and evil. He reduced them to less than human and made murdering them easier to stomach-just as our forebears did the Native Americans, and Slaves in this country. He was more systematic about it and on a scale unknown before then.
Read, ok? Read Winston Churchill, read Nazi accounts of what happened. Read European history. Read about the Royal houses of Europe. Read biographies, like Anne Frank, Hitler, Hemler, Truman.

Answer 4

Millions of Jews were sent to concentration camps throughout Germany and Nazi-controlled areas throughout Europe. The estimates go into the about a dozen Jewish people or more.

You may be right about Hitler not wanting genocide of the Jews, but his book, Mein Kampf, tends to say otherwise. In it, he repeatedly calls for the heads of any Jew who would stand in his way of kicking them out of the economical structure of Europe.

The interesting part of his rule was that he wanted to create the "master race" of tall, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, athletic people, when he was short, dark haired, dark-eyed and quite obviously not in top physical shape. And yet, none of his followers or advisors seemed to notice that.

Adolf Hitler, when seen in that regard, was probably one of the most charismatic speakers in history. And he also knew what the people of the Nazi party in Germany saw as the main problem and hit all the right notes with them. To turn an entire nation against some of its own citizens takes a great influential power.

Answer 5

The 6 million Jews does not include another 3 mile "undesireables" like the retarded, gypsies, captured Russians, etc.
Not all the people killed in Death camps were cremated. Some were buried. Some were shot, some were put into busses with the exhaust vented into the passanger compartment.... they tried many ways before settling on using poison gas and cremation.
Some of the total comes from people who died from disease and starvation and the elements and mistreatment.
It was a MASSIVE effort.

Answer 6

the total number of deaths during WWII was closer to 50 million people. That 6 million number are Jews who were directly killed by the death camps. The actual number of people killed in death camps is actually 11 million, as the Nazis rounded up Homosexuals, Gypsies, Slavs, mentally handicapped, POWs, political opponents, and other 'undesireables'. And not all were cremated and blown to the wind. Many were simply shot and buried in mass graves. But really, cremation only leaves a small pile of ash, which could be easily scattered over the land or dumped in the ocean. Hiding the ashes was probably the easy part.

Nazi doctrine was not grounded in mere secular reasons, such as Anti-Zionists who decry the supposed political and economic monopoly that the Jews exhibit over the world. The core of Nazi doctrine was one of genetic purity; actually removing the 'unclean' elements of society to pave the way for a pure, untainted race of men; the aryan race. To the Nazis, people such as the Jews were less than human, as their hatred for them was not only materialistic, it was spiritual. Granted most Germans probably would not have condoned the death camps, but as the old saying goes, when you admit absurdities, you allow for atrocities.

Answer 7

Yes, approx. six million did die but not just from being cremated in ovens. You're right on that.

Some were gassed, shot, tortured to death, and underwent horrible medical experiments (Dr. Joseph Mengele was notorious for this).

Other people were persecuted as well: gays, Communists, certain kinds of Christians, Jehovah's Witnesses, political rabble rousers, the mentally and physically disabled, etc.

Basically, Hitler had a bone to pick with almost every minority in Europe.

Answer 8

Maybe not all cremated, but killed some way by Nazi officials-not natural death though. Many Jews were deported to Nazi camps and the number was very high and only a small number survived...Auschwitz

Answer 9

wow people are typing alot: ima go simple with this one though:

According to several documentaries i watched, the work camps were actually killing more people a day than the execution camps. The reality: 10 million were not burned in ovens. Many of bodies were just lumped into mass underground burial mounds. As you mention Auschwitz, it was only unique as it was the only camp that was both a work and extermination camp.

Answer 10

It's really touching that, in your attempt to understand the reasons for WWII, you start out by giving Hitler the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps he was justified, and then conclude that possibly the atrocities committed were exaggerated.

In your case, going to the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC may not be proof enough. I suggest you take a trip to Auschwitz and see the ovens for yourself. They're still there.