Good morning. It seems everyone is upset over Libby's half-pardon. Have we forgotten Clinton's?

Question

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy

Don C-- I just blocked you so you don't have the pleasure of trolling my question anymore, you nut job.

Answer 1

I don't think any president should have pardon authority. It makes a joke of our legal system.

Answer 2

Well no I haven't so let's go over it.

Clinton was not pardoned and did not have sentence commuted. He was acquitted by Senate after being impeached by House for perjury. Now he lied about getting a BJ and that is what they were trying to impeach Clinton over.


Libby lied and obstructed justice in a case of a leak of classified information of which the information had to do with undercover intelligence so would fall under national security.


Now for anyone who has not seen the difference here it is for you...APPLES vs ORANGES. Same as comparing jaywalking and DUI.

Are they both illegal? Yes
Is former a minor issue while latter is extremely serious? Yes
Should they have same punishment? No
Should the latter be punished much more severely? Yes

Was Bush wrong to do this? Yes
Should Libby go to prison for at least 15 years? Yes



Kookoo Bananas> President needs the Pardon power to help check the Judicial Branch of government. It was setup so that The Executive could show our country's mercy and release those who violated letter of law with extenuating circumstances

Answer 3

The idea that Clinton represents one faction of the people while Bush represents the other is ridiculously incorrect.

Clinton and Bush are both right-wing politicians who represent the corporate interests and the interests of the wealthy. Neither represents the vast majority of working class Americans. Clinton gave us a consolidated media, an increased police state, the imperialist military attack on Yugoslavia, the bombing of Iraq, and NAFTA. Bush is merely the consolidation of Clinton. Both parties are filled with criminals who do not represent the general public in any capacity. Clintons crimes and Bush's crimes should both be punished.

Answer 4

All President's pardon people. It is part of the office. Most like Clinton wait until they are leaving office and after the general election where they cannot harm their party.

This pardon, like Ford's of Nixon, comes in the middle of a term, and therefore will cost the Republican party.

I could go on and on about cronyism and stuff, but when you get right down to it, Bush was within his Presidential powers, just as Clinton was and some people will think he was right and some wrong, juts as we do with Clinton. The problem is that this was a bad political move and will hurt in the general elections

Answer 5

"Clinton's wrongs don't make Bush's wrongs right."

I like this answer but it's not enough.

Those interested in only justice for some are not interested in justice for all.

Democrats point at Republicans, Republicans point at Democrats, neither listen to the other and the rhetoric keeps on rolling in like a mudslide in California.

It is my understanding that not all members are present during sessions of Congress...How might the rhetoric change if they actually had to face their accusers in person instead of through a television screen or media article?

Answer 6

Two wrongs don't make a right! Presidents seem to pardon (or commute...whatever) more people today than once was considered just or normal practice. Libby represents wrong doing in the White House, which, and as such, seems an abuse of power, and is always repugnant behavior by an elected official.

Answer 7

Libby outted a CIA operative; that's some sick and twisted sh*t.

Even more sicko is the fact that Bush has given him a get-out-of-jail-free-card.

People have lost thier lives and their freedom in jail for doing a whole lot less than what he's did; yet, they can't get out and he can 'cause he's got the doofus prez for a friend.

Answer 8

Sorry but Libby belongs in the BUTT pen just like the people Clinton pardoned.

Answer 9

only thing is we'll probably be seeing Libby and the Wilsons
in Civil Court..unless GWB actually gives Scooter a pardon'


I think after the election you'll see this..

Scooter was Marc Rich's Lawyer..worked to get that from Willie..
Clinton will never be pardoned..all of the grandstanding will
still result in him being spoken in the same sentence with
Andrew Johnson

Answer 10

Let's see...

Fitzgerald knew who leaked the name (Richard Armitage) and that it wasn't a crime very early into his investigation, yet he continued in the hopes of nailing someone in the Bush administration for something - anything!.

Bush should have vacated the entire conviction, not just commute the prison sentence.

Answer 11

What a colossal waste of the tax-payers money. Everyone knew who did what and why, and when Libby was convicted, Mr. Bush pardoned him. The only losers in this whole ordeal was the American Taxpayer. Once again.