Ownership; is it a myth? a delusion?

Question

an irrelevance? I mean, it's as transient as life isn't it?

To needlepoint: you didn't miss my point and your answer was very thought provoking.

I will admit to the point of view that it only has lasting meaning (to me)if it relates in some way to life beyond this. i.e have as used it wisely (Good Steward) Has it enhanced my relationships
and understanding of Life.

Rillifane, there's some big assumptions made in your statements!

how do you know what i would and would not, have or have not given up?

because I may not be too happy about bequeathing much to you, doesn't follow that I'm selfish necessarily, I may be exercising good stewardship

Answer 1

Good point
Yeah, because no matter what religion you believe in, death is inevitable and with so many varied versions of "truth," no one can prove what happens.

There was a book I read last year that said a lot of words we have are only metaphors for what we cannot fully grasp, ownership would be another one of them.
Another was time, because the author didn't believe in time.
I personally don't care for time, since all things are mortal, but it does exist.
I had a theory that people made up time since they were mortal and needed something to measure their span of life and that God didn't need time because he was immortal and time wasn't of importance to him.
Kind of like inventing fire and the wheel because we needed them.
But then my physics teacher said something about a time-space dilation and how time's actually relative to where you are in space.
So yeah. Apparently it's there.

I also suppose that, at another angle, you cannot own anything for forever, ownership passes hands quickly.
And owning people can be tricky.
Another point of Capote's, the author of Breakfast at Tiffany's, was that people and some animals are wild things and you cannot own wild things. You can only pour your heart into them until they get strong enough to fly away.

Although, after rereading your question, I feel I've missed a vital point in your question.
Would you care to elaborate later?

Answer 2

This is your question, but since I am answering it, I own it too; and then, this is my answer, and since it is in response to your question, you own it too, as do all the people in this place, they own both the question and the answer.

Ownership is a reality just the way everything else in this world is, and this is the best way to think for if there were some other way that would have gained popularity instead. People make great efforts to possess things. Wealth, material possessions, relations and associations all have certain meaning to them; physical, emotional, social and spiritual assets of people are used to establish worthiness of a person in society anywhere in the world. This is what is established and properly valid in the world.

This however does not mean that we should disregard the philosophical aspects of the question that might reveal things more metaphysical in their sense. In this sense the word ‘ownership’ has much broader meaningfulness attached. An ownership basically is an association, an association between the owner and a thing owned. And this association is never one sided. For instance, if you own a property, then you make sure that you look after it, as what you own is your responsibility, an association of responsibility; and in this sense your property owns you to some extent.

Then ownership is an association of power and influence. Your father might be tribal chieftain from whom you could inherit some power and influence upon the rest of the people. You do not own your tribal village literally, but own the privilege to make decisions on the behalf of your people. Ownership is also an association in human relations. You father does not own you the way he might own the money in the bank but he owns you as a relation, as his son, just the way you own him as a father.

Most philosophical thought would prove this to be true the nothing owns anything; all things just make the world for all other things. Do I own the Moon? No, I do not but who else does? The Moon I own as I own the universe, and as the universe owns me. And the people of the world that I own as my world, and in turn this world owns me.

Answer 3

It all depends on what kind of ownership you are speaking about. Ownership, as it applies to the work that I do, is not a myth or a delusion. I do my work to the best of my ability because others will know that I was the one that did the job. If I have to "put my name" on my work I want it to be well received so I take "ownership" of my work and the final product. As far as anything material such as possessions of any type, I have to say no. The only thing we really own and can take with us anywhere we go, is what we know.

Answer 4

Ownership is not irrelevant in a court of law. Try taking something that is owned by someone else and see if the courts think it doesn't matter or its a myth.
You can go off into as many realities as you wish, but we live in this one and ownership is clearly defined here.
To deny that is to deny your own existence, to deny your existence means you deny the universe and more importantly to some people, you deny the Creator.

Answer 5

Yes.
Watch Breakfast At Tiffanys, the end part. Audrey Hepburn says "No one belongs to others...." and that other guy says, "Yes, I do believe tehy belong to other. I believe that they do so they can love and live..." Yeah or something like that then they kiss in the rain. Tis the best movie ever.
I just squished a il buggy on by desk.

Answer 6

In todays society ownership is something people live on and fight over and it is sad and pathetic but ownership is just somegthing that tries to make the world go around but it tends to screw us over in the end anyways so i guess it was a myth that was taken way to far and way to long

Answer 7

I will be happy to relieve you of all such myths and delusions.

Oh what? Not so clever now eh?

The question is nonsense to the extent that you are unwilling to divest yourself of your property.

EDIT: And just how does one manage being a "good steward" of a myth or a delusion?

Answer 8

It's mine!
Don't even think about it!
Personal possessions are owned.
Life is transient, stuff isn't.

Answer 9

the wisest thing ever said to me (while fighting custody over my kids) was we never own anything , children are not our property just loaned to us for a while to bring us joy and break our hearts

Answer 10

exactly, you never know when you could lose everything, for example, a fire. it's only yours for as long as the God, the Devil or mother nature allows!