Should 4x4's be banned from busy towns and cities?

Question

Lets face it, their is simply no need to have one. And if you need the extra space for luggage/kids/equipment, then why can't people just buy and estate? They should be banned because...

- They produce more pollution than standard sized cars
- Most are designed for 'off road' activities
- They take up more room in car-parking bays
- The drivers are usually gits with a slaphead and glasses on top of them (most southerner's!) who think that their vehicle makes them 'bigger'.
- How many miles to the gallon? A Focus Estate does over 40, a 4x4 doesn't even compare
- They block roads at 9am when all the mummy's drop off their darling kiddies

Agreed?

Chris C - the difference between a bus and a 4x4..

- a bus is public transport, resulting in less cars

- 4x4 is not a bus

Answer 1

Yes absolutely they should be banned. The argument that you can still buy them is irrelevant. You can still buy cigarettes but soon you won't be able to smoke them in public places. I agree with all your points about the vehicles - not so sure about the drivers, in my experience they are usually mothers with young children - but I've never seen more than 2 or 3 kids so why they need a vehicle that size I don't know.

Answer 2

No.
Why should we put a carpet ban on something just because some ill-informed loud mouthed Liberal waste of space decides that it should happen?

They produce as much pollution as any large vehicle.
They are also designed for on road activities.
They fill a parking bay yes, you got me there. But so what's your point, we should leave as much space as possible for you?
I find BMW & Merc drivers also fit your description.
A Focus may do 40mpg, but incase it drives twice the distance of a bigger vehicle should we stop this also?
Lastly.... If you dont like driving at 0900 through a town, don't go there, because you are also contributing to the problem you dimwitt.

We need to do something about pollution. We all know that, but lets look at the bigger picture shall we.
Toyota Prius....Mmmm great dual fuel car... except the factory that produces it's batteries has polluted & killed more forest in Canada, where it's based, than every 4x4 ever made. Fact.

Why should we loose our freedom to choose? because you say so?
Not gonna happen pal.

Think up your own arguments and don't just use the same sounbites that every other band-waggon jumper uses.

And no I dont drive a 4x4... I just have an opinion, thats what you get living in a free country.

Answer 3

The logic of your points interest me not a jot - though of course you have made such stupid sweeping statements that as arguments they don't hold true for all 4x4's. For example a Skoda 4x4 Octavia Estate Tdi returns close to 50mpg, meets all the emission standards, is designed for on-road use and for when traction is comprimised, takes up the same space in a parking bay as the non 4wd version, one is driven by my Dad who is not a slap head and lives further north than you most likely do, his youngest kid is 43 so does not drop off the kids at school. See what a prat of a statement you have made?

However what bothers me is the fact that you are one of the growing number of people who are part of the banning and controlling culture that is squeezing the essence out of our way of life. We need less control not more - you have a personal disagreement with 4 x 4's, just deal with it and drop the notion of banning things.

Take a look at the things in your life that some others could possibly find offensive or irritating and then think how you would feel if some bumptious, jumped up, control freak decided that they want it taken away from you.

Answer 4

After banning the 4x4's you could ban other things for nearly the same reasons you stated for the 4x4 ban:
-fat people
-people in wheelchairs
-people with strollers
-people holding hands
-2 person bicycles
-3 wheel bicycles
-grocery carts
If you aren't feeling your ignorance yet, you could realize that many small cars come in 4x4. Also many large vehicles are not 4x4. How about the capacity of the vehicle, would it be better for you if mummy had a caravan of two cars everywhere she goes to haul her family around. Actually I bet you're thinking her family just shouldn't be allowed to go out together because a large family would fall under the same banning reasoning. I live where there are alot of modified 4x2 and 4x4s that people all are trying to have the biggest and tallest for no other reason but their image of themselves. I call them morons right along with people that want to have such a ban.

Answer 5

Come on, admit it, you're jealous because your domineering wife made you buy a little Focus!
First of all get your facts right.
Many 'standard' sized cars produce more pollution than many 4X4s.
Most are not designed for off road use any more than many 2X4s which are capable of over 120mph are meant to be racing cars.
They take no more room than a similar sized 2 wheel drive car.
There are all sorts of drivers as with any car.
My Dicovery 300 does 33mpg, my last car, an Espace did the same, that was only 2 wheel drive.
Other large cars do the same.
I agree that large cars, whether 2 or 4 wheel drive should be restricted in towns and cities, but don't pick on the poor old 4X4 drivers. Remember us drivers of higher taxed cars are subsidising you drivers of little cars. Be grateful!

Answer 6

I live in North Dakota and deliver newspapers 7 days a week. I am out there way before the plows come around. There are days when I am bucking snow well past the front bumper. Most people wouldn't get to work with out 4x4's. My full sized Chevy truck has a 4.3 L V-6 with a 5 sp. I get around 20 mpg which is pretty respectable for a truck that size.
My son has a 1981 Chevy Luv diesel 4x4 that does around 35 mpg. There are people out there with big 3/4 tons with body and suspension lifts and big mudder tires that probably burn a lot more fuel but that's their choice. We don't need another law.
When I can get away with it my truck sits and I use my Saturn. 40+ mpg! Or I bike.

Answer 7

This is in the UK section right? Assuming it is, I tend to agree with you in the majority of cases. However a few miles south of Croydon (South London) is a village that has more unmade roads than made up, this village also has quiet bad winters, so a 4 x 4 is useful for them.
As a country taxi driver I am considering getting a 4 x 4 because of the problem getting to my customers who live on farms. I do not make that choice lightly as the higher fuel consumption cannot be passed onto my customers (I am council metered) and therefore reduces my profit, but I will gain in being able to go where my existing taxi cannot.
There is also the point of having even more laws forbidding us to do something. Soon there will be loudspeakers in our homes, workplaces and on all street corners and we will be told when to breath in and out.

Answer 8

I`m neither a southerner or a git.I live in a rural area that doesn`t have the luxury of a bus service, train station or even street lights we have no mains sewers or gas. I do however own a 4x4. wre I live its a must in the winter because we don`t get gritters either,I can`t affored to own two cars so one car that does both is essencial.Should we ban townies from the country side because the hold up the tractors and combines going from field to field.grow uip and think before jumping on the "ban"d wagon. mine does more MPG than the jags and merc`s and BMW`s that are all over town.

Answer 9

No;

- A small 4x4 produces less pollutants than a large saloon.
- A lot are designed for low adhesion, a safety feature.
- A small 4x4 takes up less space than a large saloon.
- Hairstyle is irrelevant.
- Fiat Panda 4x4 does 42.6 mpg average.
- Mummy's pay road tax too, and have every right to drive.

Therefore, not agreed.

Answer 10

I have a better idea. Let's ban all pedestrians who are not trained athletes.

-They pay no taxes for their transportation.
-They create pollution and greenhouse gasses (They expel CO2, a "greenhouse gas", with every breath!
-They block the roads when they cross.
-Some are larger than others, and take up much more room on the walkway.
- Many are not pleasing to look at.
- They burn too many calories walking, it would be more efficient for them to stay home.

Sounds stupid, doesn't it? You want to control what people can drive, just because you disagree with their choices of how to spend their hard earned money. Who are you to decide? What makes your opinion better than theirs?

Hitler and Stalin thought they were right too. They took freedom away from the people. I am not calling you Hitler or Stalin, but you seem to want to do the same thing!

Answer 11

Get real! you watch too much TV!! Should we ban vans,buses and all HGVs.

I drive a small family car but under the hood is a 2.5 V6 (that's a big one) and it does 20 mpg. My Girlfriends "Chelsea Tractor" does 41mpg so have a think about yourself before you spout such rubbish!

As for safety, the Freelander (Chelsea Tractor) gets a top five star Euro NCAP safety rating! Whereas the Suzuki Ignis (toy car) gets no Euro NCAP rating!If I was in an accident I know which one Id rather be in!

Get off the bandwaggon and get a life!!

Source(s):

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews...
And a bit of sense