But they are just animals that were raised to be eaten. The animals taste so good too. Can't we all just get along - I am not trying to turn vegitarians into meat eaters - why do you have to hate?
I just came back to see what people were saying - I read the answers - the horse thing is coming up a lot. While I was never against the sale of horses for meat - the closing of the slaughterhouses has preserved some horses and brought down the prices for horses in the short run; however, this will probably make farmers raise less horses because they can't afford to just have old ones sitting there taking up resources (even a bullet would cost money). That should equalize out the price of horses.
But again - can't we all just get along. Some of us really love animals and some of us see them more as "beasts" - who is to say in the end who is right - lets just work with each other on building up instead of building against.
2007-06-28 10:59:45
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answered by the_hilton 4
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To be honest, they treat their animals a lot better than what many people treat their pets.
They very closely monitor the temperature, conditions, symptoms, feed, etc so that none of the animals get sick. The people that raise them are very careful. Their income depends upon them treating the animals very well.
For instance in hog raising facilities you have to have clean boots when you enter the facility. If you wear in boots from another hog farm that could possibly bring in diseases from another hog farm. The hogs are vaccinated and tested and tons of stuff are done for them.
You have no idea how far the farmers go to take care of them because you have never grown up on a farm. If you had, you would know better. Most of the farmers that work with the animals have worked around animals since they were a toddler. They know how to take care of them. And when you are around them that much in some ways some of the animals kinda feel like family.
On the other hand, I see pet owners on here all the time who have made their animals suffer through ignorance or not knowing better, like giving their rabbits veggies because they think veggies are good for them. Then they wonder why the rabbit gets diahrrea and dies or why it is getting fat. Or they give it a bath and it dies of pneumonia an hour or two later and they wonder what they did wrong.
From an outsiders perspective who has never grown up on a farm it may look like they are suffering, but they are not. Most are very well taken care of to the point of almost hospital-like methodology.
I suggest you follow the old saying..."Walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you criticize them."
You are talking about things that you have no firsthand experience about.
Most pet owners think they take care of their animals way better than the farmers do. And in many instances it is just the opposite, because the pet owners often lack the experience and knowledge the farmers do.
One or two years of experience for one person vs. an entire lifetime for the other. Yeah, the farmer wins the experience argument handily.
2007-06-29 10:20:23
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answered by devilishblueyes 7
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So you look at a PETA website and believe all that they say?
First off, they post the worst of the worse pictures. The calves that are dead, how is it any different than them dying out on the range i n 50,000 acre ranches? They don't always get the treatment they need and it just happens.
These animals are raised to be eaten, slaughterhouses are a necessity. However thanks to the 'horse lovers' of the US, all horse slaughter houses are shut down. That has basically killed the horse market, you can't even sell a colt for what the owner paid out in stud fees here. In the sales, weaners are barely even getting $25-50 and sometimes no saleing.
Now, owners don't utilize the sales to dispose of the sick and old animals, that was at least more humane than letting them sit out to pasture and waste away. Oh btw, there is no pasture here, we are in a drought.
You all need to realize the consequences of your actions, you go out there with no plan other to shut down the plants, think for a minute on the consequences to the animals, don't believe me, drive around here for a while!!!!!!!!!
2007-06-28 18:40:40
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answered by Mulereiner 7
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I know!! I HATE the fact that poor innocent animals are being killed so we can have more food...there are PLENTY of other foods we can eat without eating animals. Just think of how they feel..like a bear..he eats people sometimes..right??...well...we think that they are just animals and were raised for eating(except me and you)..well...think of what the bear might feel..he thinks that we are just humans..nothing special..and we were put on this earht for eating...see?? we are obsessed wiht ourselves and that is causing many deaths for innocent animals..and some poeple might say that if we dont kill the deer that they will over populate....but we already have over populated from the animals' point of view..PLEASE HELP THE POOR ANIMALS!
2007-07-06 17:14:33
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answered by Anonymous
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Look, I agree that animals shouldnt be slaughtered for no reason, but people are already having food shortages so why cut off half the food suply? We can't live on only plants. If we did, the animals would be without food and everything (including us) would die. Ever think about that?
2007-06-29 09:01:51
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answered by Anonymous
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Hunam beings are meant to be vegetarians! We have very long intestines and we don't have sharp teeth!
People always rationalize cruelty. Speciesism is the worst form of racism because it targets those least able to defend themselves and those who are the easiest to victimize.
Vegetarians are generally much healthier than meat eaters. goveg.com Those of you who believe that conditions on factory farms are acceptable are living in fairytale land!
2007-07-06 03:51:38
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answered by Karin D 2
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hmmmm....
strangely enough i don't think that that will change any minds.
i am well aware of some of the horrors of factory farms, though most are not as horrible as those.
but i am an omnivore, and all of my animals will continue to be omnivores. vegan is not healthy for most pets.
and just as a response to the slaughtering horses bit....
they have banned the slaughtering of horses for sale to other countries. what has happened to these horses? are they loved pets? no, they sit in squalor because there are too many horses and not enough homes. their fate is worse than the slaughter house. now that is inhumane.
2007-06-28 18:16:05
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, the meat industry can be quite unsettling. I do my part every day. As long as they're killing the cows, pigs, chickens, etc., I'll do my best to keep them from dying in vain.
2007-06-29 16:37:46
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answered by Eron_Rathbone 2
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Mulreiner is a little obnoxious in his answer, but I agree with him about the horse slaughter plants, which I regard as a necessary evil of our society. We are going to see a big drop in the price and quality of horses which are offered for sale- and many of the people who would otherwise have bought the animals now won't. With no other means of getting rid of them, the owners of such animals are now faced with 2 choices: they can either kill the animal by some other means ( such as shooting it), and then send it to a rendering plant to be turned into leather or glue, OR, they can abandon the animal somewhere and let it starve, die of disease, get hit by a car, or get shot by the police or hunters. None of these scenarios is pretty, people- but this is what is going to happen to all of these horses that no one is able to dispose of by slaughter anymore. There are a LOT of people out there who can't afford to euthanize unwanted horses, or horses that have mental or behavioral problems which make them dangerous ( and our country's racetracks are FAMOUS for producing horses like this, folks) because it is so costly to dispose of the carcass afterwords. Burial costs can run to $500 to $1000 a head, depending on what else is done and where this is done, and that is a hefty expense for many.
As far as other livestock ( cattle, swine, poultry, sheep, goats, and the like) goes, all I can say is that we raise and breed those animals for food- and the great majority of people feel no real emotional connection to them at all. I agree that the animals should be treated humanely prior to slaughter, and that we need to come up with a better way to put animals down than the bolt guns currently in use. Bolt guns often fail to work on really large animals- with the result that the animals are often still alive and aware when they are strung up to be bled out. Because they are aware, they scream- and this is what has given the slaughterhouses the horrible reputations they have nowadays. Most everyone I ever heard of hates to hear any creature suffer agonizing pain- and this is what happens to animals that are slaughtered.
There are plenty of ways to change this situation and make it more humane, but no one seems to be interested in making them happen. We CAN use another method for destroying animals- I think we should look into using some type of laser device to destroy the animals' brains. Lasers are already used for surgery on people with great success, and it would seem to me that developing some type of laser gun would be relatively straight forward. Or how about using a stronger version of the Taser stun gun that the police currently have and use now? Tasers have been shown to kill people if they are applied or used incorrectly, because an electric shock delivered to the wrong place can stop the heart instantly. This principle should be improved upon, and we can make a device that will stop a cow's or pig's heart instantly, while still preserving the safety of the meat. These methods are much more humane and much safer than the bolt guns. Next, we need to change the way our slaughterhouses operate in the sense that we need to stop them from hiring undocumented, often uneducated workers with criminal backgrounds as employees. Most of the slaughter facilities out there rarely if ever conduct background checks on their employees, and some of these people are known crimminals. You get what you pay for, as the saying goes, and there is no place where this is more true than in the animal processing industry. We need to hire people with decent, clean backgrounds, and educate them so they understand at least a little bit about what normal horse, cow, and other animal behavior looks like.This would also go a long way towards solving at least some of the problems in this business. We will NEVER be able to entirely eliminate the need for the slaughterhouses, no, but we CAN and SHOULD make them more humane and less cruel.
PS:I grew up on a farm, and have lived around animals all my life, so that excuse won't work with me. I agree that most farmers do take care of their animals fairly well-but current farming practices mandate that more animals be kept than the land can support, which causes problems in the long term. We DO have problems with factory farming in this country- and the need for cheap protein to feed to cows has led to some very inhumane practices. Cows are fed a lot of strange things, including parts of other rendered animals. Most cattle feed that I have seen usually contains both blood and bone meal, and it usually also has antibiotics in it to make the animals grow bigger and put on weight. This has led to antibiotic resistance in both the cows and in the people who consume the meat and milk which is produced from them. There's a reason why we have to keep pushing to discover new antibiotics, folks- the ones we have are rapidly losing their effectiveness, and this is one reason why. If we want to save ourselves from not being able to fight disease at all, this practice has GOT TO STOP. We have all heard about E.coli in hamburger- the strain of E.coli that causes these problems is almost impossible to treat because it is so drug resistant. The result is that when outbreaks occur, innocent people get sick and die- and many times, those people are kids. Think about it. I have, and it gives me the chills sometimes.
2007-06-29 16:53:16
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answered by Starlight 1 7
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Cows and sheep and hogs have 1 person in life- 2 die or get eaten
Which woluld you rather have happen?
2007-07-01 21:03:41
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answered by cattle_lamb_showman 1
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